Is "Per Hour" Compensation Safer, and is $24 / hr Good for an Experienced Driver with a Safe Record?

street beater · Nov 10, 2015

mountaingote said: ↑

I hope it doesn't take 70 hours to run 2500 miles, street beeter. More like 50. Also, I've only worked for one outfit ever that paid to sleep in the truck. $25 a night or she would buy a room, my choice. I took the money and slept in the truck, duh.
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Who said 70? He said 35 to 40 hours, including deliverys and putzin around warehouse's and the odd off site del, with around 130,000... so yeah like i said.....

HorseShoe · Nov 10, 2015

madman76 said: ↑

Just use owner operators then all your worrys are over
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But make them buy the trucks from you at a 40% markup!

madman76 · Nov 10, 2015

HorseShoe said: ↑

But make them buy the trucks from you at a 40% markup!
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Only fools go for those types of deals

truckon · Nov 11, 2015

HorseShoe said: ↑

Your username is funny
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That was a helpful answer.

Pool6710 · Nov 11, 2015

Where are you located? Would this be a M-F job? Depending on location of your company and the service area you provide would help determine if pay is enough.

stevez57305 · Nov 11, 2015

If you plan on someone doing 130,000 miles a yr. And only work 35 to 40 hrs a week, that is no where near safe. Your looking at least a 80mph truck on ADVERAGE. Bye bye bottom line. And that is if the guy never goes home. $960 a week... Fagetaboutit

chalupa · Nov 11, 2015

Yes that's a good wage, you can probably get more driver than 5 years for that wage imo. Just recheck your expectations. 130K miles is way too high for a 40 hr week.

Good luck

Bob Dobalina · Nov 11, 2015

I am paid by the hour now, and I believe it is much safer that way. I don't do halfas$ pretrips and I don't drive as aggressively in traffic as I did at one time. I used to think "the longer my day is, the less I'm making per hour". Now I don't have to worry about that. I have a good work ethic so I'm not stealing company time and dragging my feet, but I can't say the same for all other hourly drivers.

rabbiporkchop · Nov 11, 2015

Kooter said: ↑

Hello again everyone

I've put a few posts on here asking questions related to a project I have been tasked with, and I've encountered another couple stumbling blocks that I hope you'll help with. I cannot seem to find the right combination of words to get Google to show me the laws surrounding driver compensation, and part two of my question is me looking for your opinions on what I'm thinking for annual compensation.

Question 1

We'd be looking at a company driver, and I know the industry standard is per mile, but what about time spent sleeping, refueling, weigh stations, pulled over, and traffic jams for example? How are you paid for those times as a company driver? If we paid per hour, would we need to pay for all time spent away from their home, or only time spent driving and putzing around the warehouses of our different locations?

Would one of you please direct me to a resource that would answer these questions?

Question 2

We are not a trucking company - we are a material supply company looking to move our own product between our warehouses, and also out to jobsites for delivery. There may be a backhaul if we can find a company to set up an arrangement with, but that'd be secondary. I'm estimating around 130,000 miles driven per year along mostly the same route, with a few variances for jobsite deliveries in the general area of the normal route. I'd like a compensation rate and method that would promote safe driving and 100% compliance with everything. Be completely 100% legal at all times.

For this, I was thinking an hourly wage so that it would actually behoove the driver to drive slower and take their time in heavy traffic, inclement weather, weigh stations, and whatever else they may come across. Do you think this would work, or is there something I'm not thinking of? If an hourly rate would be the way to go, do you think $24 per hour (plus benefits) with an estimated 35 to 40 hours per week and driving new equipment would be enough to attract and retain a driver with 5 years experience with a clean driving record?

Thanks for your input!
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$24.00 hourly with paid medical and dental would promote safe driving.

Kooter · Nov 11, 2015

street beater said: ↑

Btw 130,000 is 2,500 a week, dont think 35 to 40 hours a week is gonna cut it ..
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Thanks for pointing out the time vs mileage discrepancy. I found my error there. Padded the miles to account for unknown deliveries and possible back hauls, but still used just the time it would take to go from warehouse to warehouse. 130,000 is likely high, but I wanted to be high instead of low for this project. Looking around 110,000 miles going just warehouse to warehouse.

NewbiusErectus said: ↑

My last job was with an international chemical distributor/mfgr. (Private fleet as is your situation), was pd (hourly) by logbook on-duty and driving time, time-and-a-half after 8 hrs and 40 hrs. So, any time at shipper/consignee I logged on duty, as well as pre-trip/post-trip, fueling, DOT insp, etc.
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And "on duty" can be at most 14 hours a day, 70 hours a week - correct?

NewbiusErectus said: ↑

and I only have 3 years exp and clean MVR ,, you want 5 yrs exp
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I pulled 5 years out of the air - is 5 years excessive?

Pool6710 said: ↑

Where are you located? Would this be a M-F job? Depending on location of your company and the service area you provide would help determine if pay is enough.
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Route would start in Twin Cities MN, and it would be at most 6 days driving and a minimum of 3 nights at home (assuming home is Twin Cities). Day 1 drive from Twin Cities to Omaha, day 2 drive from Omaha to Fargo, and day 3 drive from Fargo to Twin Cities - twice a week. Be back in Twin Cities on Wednesday and Saturday, with Sunday off. Wednesday and Saturday would be short days since the drive from Fargo to Twin Cities is 4 hours.

$24 per hour with medical, dental, 401k with matching, 1.5 overtime pay after 40 hours, and PTO.

With this updated information, do you think $24 would be enough to attract and retain an experienced driver with a clean record? Also, you folks pointed out one flaw already - are there any others you see?

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