Requesting Insight/Advice to make my final decision.

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Big Papaxx, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. catalinaflyer

    catalinaflyer Road Train Member

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    I'm sorry you feel as though Boyd is out of consideration because of Daseke. I work for one of the companies, the original if you will and being bought by Daseke has brought nothing negative. Our pay went up and benefits got better. We are all owned by Daseke but we are all very separate companies. We do not pull each others trailers, haul each others freight or even use each others facilities.

    Making an uninformed decision is usually a bad decision. If you rule Boyd out it should be for reasons other than who the parent company is, we are far from anything even remotely resembling a "mega" carrier.
     
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  3. Big Papaxx

    Big Papaxx Medium Load Member

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    Thank you Rontonio
    I have priced the insurance including a minimum of 100k for cargo insurance and have . While you are correct and I agree 100% with you. O/O is not my first choice but merely a back up plan in the event I cannot find a company I believe to be a good fit..I do not have the experience in the Trucking Industry Nor have I driven OTR or possed a CDL. I agree as well that jumping into O/O would be a tremendous challenge and again I hope to avoid it. I simply believe in always being proactive and obtaining the authority cannot hurt me.. If I never need it great if I find no other options then I am not scrambling to set things up.

    However all of that experience in business and logistics. I have been involved in International and Domestic logistics air,ships, trains and truck. From Customs shipping and receiving sales brokerage for 25 years in my previous career. I have been an executive for an International Equipment Manufacturer and ran the US Sales Operations and Distribution for 15 years and then Owned and Operated a North American Distributor for 10 years until I sold that business 4 years ago.. Coupled with operating and being certified to operate everything from A forklift to Heavy Equipment to 300 ton capacity Overhead cranes weekly. This and growing up with a love for Semi's is what has re-lit the passion to become an OTR driver..

    I have NO illusions that being an O/O would easy quite the opposite and as I mentioned I am only being proactive to have a back up.. Thanks again and this is why I posted this as I welcome all feed back and wan't as much of it as I possibly can receive.
     
  4. Big Papaxx

    Big Papaxx Medium Load Member

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    Oh I agree and I do not make uninformed decisions. I have and am continuing to research it. I have not completely discarded them and it has nothing to do with who they are owned by. It has everything to do with on size. while I understand that each of the 9 flatbed companies are run independent of the others on a day to day basis. They are viewed as 1 company. With that they are looking to make more acquisitions in the future. They also are looking at taking the company public within the next year or two.

    Mr. Daseke has set up his company with the same philosophy and structure as Warren Buffet has with Birkeshire Hathaway. They acquire very well run and financially sound companies that in most cases were not even on the market to be sold. Mr. Daseke then provides those companies with capital and mentoring to grow each of the businesses.

    I will continue to do my research but the size of the company as a whole is the biggest reason for my concern.

    Thanks and as you can see I do not make uninformed decisions..
     
  5. Big Papaxx

    Big Papaxx Medium Load Member

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    If I am not mistaken Smokey Point distributing was the first company he acquired in 2008 2009 and then EW Wylie.. Now I also know that WTI was acquired by Boyd Bros prior to Boyd Companies being acquired by Daseke.. I agree 100% that all of Daseke companies do not resemble a Mega carrier in any way except for size. I also agree that they are operated independently which is evident by the simple fact that every flatbed company acquired by daseke retained the the owners and management who continue to run the day to day operations.. It is really a very impressive business model and organizational structure which in and of itself shows that it is far superior to any of the " megas" .. like I said I will continue to research and I have not completely disqualified Boyd as I still have my pre hire letter and I am still in contact with the recruiter I have been dealing with at Boyd..
     
  6. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    I'm curious what does that heavy equipment certification look like?
     
  7. Bigfoot030475

    Bigfoot030475 Bobtail Member

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    I have to say that even in orientation System took honesty and sincerity and made it a priority I have yet to catch even the recruiters in bs. So I like it here a lot. I was when I first came to system just going to get my refresher bit out of the way but the more I run under these guys the more I like them
     
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  8. Bigfoot030475

    Bigfoot030475 Bobtail Member

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    You can get one from Redman for operating heavy machinery and cranes can be acquired through nccco both are not cheap to get, the Redman certs are good because they go over osha regs and some industries require those certificates in order to even load their equipment on a trailer.
     
  9. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    I've been in construction most of my adult life, and I can tell you the Redman certification isn't worth the paper it's printed on. My union gives it no weight in the consideration of being accepted to the apprenticeship, and can actually be a detriment. We usually make fun of the guys who show up wanting a job trying to show us that certification. By the way that comes from experience, most guys with that very can't hit the ground with a bucket or blade. It's really no different than most of these CDL schools, you get your CDL but doesn't mean you can drive a truck. The CCO is a little different story, some companies require it and soon you'll have to have it to run a crane and be insured, I have mine (hydraulic fixed cab to be specific) but it doesn't make me a crane operator.
     
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  10. Bigfoot030475

    Bigfoot030475 Bobtail Member

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    I have to say I agree with you on that just because you get certified to do something doesn't make you the most qualified but the point is you can get certified. My dad and I ran a general contracting firm in Houston and many of the union operators that applied to work for us weren't worth the certs they had either, my own nccco license has been expired for 18 plus years. I learned more about operating the crane from my riggers in the field than what was taught in class
     
  11. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    You must have had one of the first CCO certifications because it started in 1995 and there good for 5 years. The CCO is different though, it is a recognized certification and is required by a lot of places that's why I had to get mine.
     
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