Kevin Rutherfrauds $200000 Signature glider truck has complete engine failure!!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Bobby Barkert, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    @double yellow I'm not on Facebook or anything. Was there a documented change in fuel economy when they switched bumpers or was that in the middle of all their other issues? Reason I ask is I could show you my books for 2014 and you can't tell when I put my Herd on.
     
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  3. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    They did lots of other modifications before and after installing their Arc? bumper, but here are the raw numbers anyway:

    before:
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    after:
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  4. RustyBolt

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    At what times of the year? Same loads?

    The only way to get solid numbers is on an enclosed climate controlled test track where every variable can be the same throughout the testing. And that will never happen. I keep pretty good records of my fuel mileage and have fluctuations of 0.5mpg from one 20K mile stretch to the next.
     
  5. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Here I spread it out over time. Larger and darker is heavier weight.
     
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  6. dirthaller

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    I like my "brick" even better after reading this post......my worst isn't much worse than their worst mpg. I don't care who drives my truck, they COULDN'T get worse mpg than having me behind the wheel...lol
     
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  7. 1johnb

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    What I find amazing is some people, I had a father son outfit. They would chase every thing to get better milage and spend a lot of money doing it. When all they needed was a lighter right shoe.
    Either one would give John Force a run for the money leaving a green light
     
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  8. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Exactly what I was trying to say.
     
  9. Dominick253

    Dominick253 Heavy Load Member

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    Yup. I drove an international that ran 225 all day long. On second thought they had to rebuild that engine three times and it still wasn't right. They they bought a reman. Hmmm... Maybe the boss should not have acted like I was just #####ing when I told him it ran hot.
     
  10. Bean Jr.

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    I ran into a driver who had a lift axle on his T680, and we got to talking. He had his converted at Terry's, the same guy who fixed this truck. It was he who sent Jeff to Terry's. We discussed Evan's, so I looked up some more info. I found this post at jalopyjournel.com
    SUMMARY OF FINDINGS

    Conversion costs of $259 if you do it yourself, or over $400 if you pay a shop to do it.

    97%+ removal of all previous coolant ismandatory in order to prevent corrosion.

    Inhibitor deposition occurs on aluminum surfaces, which could cause issues in some radiators.

    Engines run 115-140oF hotter (at the cylinder heads) with Evans products.

    Stabilized coolant temps are increased by 31-48oF, versus straight water with No-Rosion.

    Reprogramming ECU fan temp settings ismandatory to prevent the fan from running continuously.

    Specific heat capacity of Evans waterless products ranges from 0.64 to 0.68, or about half that of water.

    Engine octane requirement is increased by 5-7 numbers.

    Computerized ignition must retard engine timing by 8-10o to prevent trace knock.

    Engine horsepower is reduced by 4-5%.

    Accelerated recession of non-hardened valve seats in older engines is possible, due to brinelling.

    Viscosity is 3-4 times higher than what OEM water pumps are rated to accommodate.

    Coolant flow rate through radiator tubes is reduced by 20-25% due to the higher viscosity.

    Race tracks prohibit Evans products because they are flammable and slippery when spilled.
    And this one was right after it;
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      Hi All,
      I would like to share my Evans Waterless NPG High Performance experience with you all.
      Did a lot of research and watched the Jay Leno video and read what I thought was everything I needed to know about Evans before going and spending $400 on the stuff and putting it in my brand new rebuilt engine, 289 Windsor with alloy heads, manifold and rad.
      Started engine and did the 20 minute run in for the new cam. All went well but did notice the coolant temp reached 210 F. I wasn't too worried as I was running in the cam on a new engine in my garage.
      Now I will say here the Evans at this stage has been in the engine for 5 weeks total with 20 minutes running at temperature.
      Shut it all down let it cool did a couple more runs to set up carby and make sure it was all running OK.
      Total run time on engine is close enough to 1 hour.
      Dumped the oil and removed the oil filter to find a bit of metal in the filter.
      As a precaution took engine out to drop the sump and have an inspection.
      I have attached some photos of what I found in the cooling system.
      Anything in the cooling system that was Zinc coated was starting to be eaten away by the Evans.
      Spring in the bottom hose looks like it is growing cauliflower as do the core plugs in the alloy heads.
      These aren't just deposits it has actually eaten the zinc off the base metal.
      I have since pulled the engine down flushed out all traces of the Evans and filled with Penrite 50/50 coolant.
      When draining the Evans out some got on the zinc coated brake lines so I have included that photo as well.
      On a good note the metal in the oil was just a couple of bits of swarf and no problems there at all.


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  11. Bean Jr.

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    Now, if this is true, it shows what a scumbag and idiot Bruce is! Instead of maligning his customer, and a gentleman who spent over $150,000 buying a truck, he could have hung it all on Evan's, where it belonged.
     
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