Hiding Income From Ex-Wife

Isn't this is a place where we can discuss things, get advice and give it?

Don't be so quick to judge someone when you know nothing about their situation. Just because a woman has an order to receive child support, doesn't mean she's the "good guy". As someone mentioned, there ARE women (and vice versa) who don't use it on the children and the fathers continue to support in other ways as well.
And there are ones who lie from the beginning to get it and the X is still paying, even after the 'child' is grown up and working.
If people took the time to listen to the situation they might understand a little more and stop making quick judgments.
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To the O.P.

I agree with talking to a good accountant. You also need to know the C.S. laws of your state.

I discussed things with an accountant before I went with incorporating the business in my name. My husband is signed on as someone who can write checks if need be, but he holds no positions in the company. Nor does he own anything (on paper). If anything should happen to me the company could run on its own and he could continue working for the company as he is now. Since I don't know that much about the industry I (most times) take the back seat while he takes the reins. We make decisions together, but I take care of books.

Although I keep meticulous records of everything and have nothing to hide, I would never allow anyone from the C.S. system to see the books, simply because (as this is a corp) they have no right to.
I know that in some states they may try to take part of the new spouse's income. In other states a spouse's income cannot be touched. They cannot touch the corporation.
I keep a record of what/when he gets paid, so that is what he can provide should he be asked for an accounting of his income.
I hope this helps, but as mentioned, it's worth your while to talk to a good accountant about it.

 

I have to agree...and disagree. There is a way to hide income legally. The IRS provides for this. But, it would not work for him.

It's called taking the Per Diem as a company driver. Something I would never recommend unless it was a matter of survival. Companies (SRT especially) push this point really hard to get drivers to take the per diem.

 

After reading a lot of posts on here concerning per diem, I did some research on it to make sure we did things right. As mentioned in other posts, you have to weigh the pros/cons of that. But it works for us at times.

If you are spending the night out of town (or so many miles away from home) you can take per diem. My husband came up from FL to another state to work, so he can legally take per diem for the entire time (I think up to 8 months unless he permanently changes his address).
We decided to stay here. But even if he does change addresses he still spends some nights out of town, so he can be paid per diem for those times. It's all legal and the per diem still could not be considered when paying taxes or C.S. Although the company does have to show it to the IRS, but it's recorded separately.

Another bit of info: My husband's X's CS attorney asked for an accounting of MY income once. I'd heard that lawyers try to get that info and a lot of times do get it because people don't know the laws and think they have to provide it. Since the laws of that state say a new spouse's income may not be considered in CS, I knew he had no right knowing what my income was, so it wasn't provided.

To those who think ill of ones getting creative with income because of C.S. issues...
When you've gone hungry at times while on the road because your wife wouldn't forward you $ (saying she was broke at home, yet spending it on drugs & her family members), you've supported your family because you cared about them, you did everything "right" after divorcing (even when she lied to get on C.S., which caused you to get behind right from the beginning on something you didn't even owe on), paid C.S. even until after the "child' was grown and working (plus helped with extras, while you were constantly broke), and she wants to deliberately keep you in the poorhouse because she's not only greedy but angry for losing control of the funds & wants to punish you for leaving (even though she got the house, property, and all the trucks and you were left with nothing but the shirt on your back because she burned the rest of your work clothes); It's no wonder you end up feeling like you have to get creative with your income! I really feel for people in those situations, and am glad that there are some ways to work it out in your favor.

 

My ex was not mean and vindictive. I paid CS monthly and then helped with college expenses. On the plus side, the fact that my ex remarried and moved to California made it possible for my son to attend UCSB. California paid for most of it.

I am still paranoid, and keep my canceled CS checks in a safe deposit box.

 

It just amazes me that women are like that. I have been divorced from my kids dad going on 13yrs. I walked away from the marriage with my truck, clothes and the kids clothes by my choice. I didn't want child support since I figured that I was half the reason why the kids were born and the judge was going to hold me contempt of court for arguing it with him. So the ex is only paying for a 1year old and a 3 year old which my kids are now soon to be 17 and 14. He is a UPS driver and he clears over a 1000.00 a wk and he is court ordered to pay 157.85 a week and he complains about what he has to pay and he can't afford to have the kids during the summer. Well my son moved in with him last year and he just can't seem to afford to let our daughter stay with him. I keep thinking wow I don't make even close to that and I supported both on my own it was tough at times. My kids for the most part get the money that is sent the other part is spent on medical bills that their dad is suppose to pay half of and never has to this day. I feel for you that you have a x like that

 

Wow I have a son with my ex and I didn't even bother with child support, of course, it would be like 10.00 a week anyway since he works at Burger King, but still. Unless he was making a lot and I was an invalid I really don't agree with the whole child support issue.


I personally know a couple whom the wife was supposed to be on Birth Control and didn't take it, purposely, because SHE wanted to have kids. Did not tell the husband. He did not want kids until he was making enough that they didn't life check to check. They had kids b/c of the birth control issue. Now they are divorced and she has him paying child support. Whose the evil one then?

I wouldn't bother even trying to get child support or alimony unless the break up was ESPECIALLY nasty like he cheated or something. As for your situation as others have said, look into INC with someone you trust as the money manager and you as an employee it helps in a lot of ways not just with the ex thing.

 

I should be the one GETTING alimony then from my EX then. That fat ##### and she is that with a Capital B and could also be called the C word also. She gave me 48 hours to get my butt out of the state and then she tells me it was so her NEW LOVER COULD MOVE IN WITH HER. I on the otherhand kept mine in my pants til AFTER THE PAPERS WERE FILED then started to date. Let me say if I had the cash I would have made a trip to the Viking Resort in the Bahamas for a week. The divorce was nasty from her she called me everything under the sun in pretrial motions me on the otherhand was respectful as a Preist to her and her family. On my finalization day in WI I showed up with my new Fiancee. She then tried to claim I was cheating on her prior to the Split I very nicely handed the judge her Chat records she had left on the computer and they showed it was HER that cheated.

The judge goes to me do you want any alimony from her and I got more I was like F NO I just want to be single again.

 

It don't get no better LOL. My kids are grown now. But me and the ex still have to have a lawyer to referee. We spoke for the first time in over 5 years at my daughters graduation. It was as civil as I could bear

She asked me if I thought I was looking at my new son in law.

My reply, Yes, and if you want to attend the wedding. I suggest you sign the papers, for the wedding.

Mississippi still requires a parent to sign for anyone under the age of 21. I'm not allowed, since I am not (wasn't) the custodial parent.

Tennessee only requires that you be 18, no parental consent needed.

 

I guess I am a little on the lucky side. My ex and I are civil with one another. I pay close to 40% of what I make in CS and I am ok with it. I want my kids to be taken care of. Reguardless of how I feel about their mother.

 

I never quit paying mine, nor did I ever short it. But there was no order of civility in our divorce decree. And the Judge sided with me in my "contest" of her demands.

At least "I" still get invited to have dinner with "her" parents from time to time And I'm the one who always takes the kids to see them...or at least I used to. I still have dinner with them though, they've been good friends/family.

All is well that ends well in the end. Even if you still can't speak to the ex.