Ticket by a state officer question..

This is why I pay $150.00 a year to be apart of a drivers legal service... No need to waist time coming on here asking aspiring attorneys questions they don't know answers to, I forward my tickets to the real deal and let them handle it...

So far my success rate is 2-0...

Well worth the $150

Happy Holidays All.

 

You're talking 2 different systems.

Your MVR is the record you've always had. ANY tickets that have a guilty verdict entered will show up on that record, whether you were driving a CMV or your POV. Any convictions for traffic offenses that you receive, you are required to notify your employer so that they can keep an accurate record of your violations. Annually, they have to pull your MVR from the state, so any convictions that you've had will show up.

CSA is a different animal altogether. It doesn't matter how many tickets you receive in your POV or even in a CMV if no inspections are performed. In order for CSA points to be awarded, there has to be an inspection. No inspection = no CSA.

It is all explained in this brief (by government standards) 162 page .pdf file: https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/Documents/SMSMethodology.pdf

Skip to the bottom of page 2-2 (13 in the .pdf) under "data sources" if you don't want to read the entire thing. Roadside inspections, State-reported CMV crash records, and Serious Violations from investigations are the only 3 ways information makes it into the Saftey Measurement System (SMS), upon which the CSA is based.

Bottom line, if you didn't get an inspection report to go along with the ticket, it WILL be on your MVR if you are convicted, but it will NOT show up on the company's CSA. If you DID get an inspection report, then it will be on the CSA whether you are convicted or not unless you can successfully DataQ it to get it off, and will still only show up on your MVR if you are convicted.

 

The one thing that I got after reading this OP is that the seat belt ticket was in place of another ticket. I have actually done this. In place of a speeding ticket I have written someone a "Fail to obey a traffic control device." It is called a roadside reduction by the officer. It is less points and a smaller fine. I have seen only two people fight this type of reduction. I have gone to court on a trial and when I arrive at court I ask that the ticket be dismissed and then I write them a ticket for the speeding. Basically it goes back to the main reason that you got stopped. If you didn't like the "roadside reduction" it goes back up at a trial. At least that is what I did. Seems the officer cut you a break with this reduction. Fighting it may get worse, may turn out OK in the long run. Either way good luck to you. Whatever you do if you are convicted the points will go on your MVR. Many local cops don't do roadside inspections so I wouldn't worry about it going on CSA, but you never know how things go with this. Good Luck.

 

Having a ticket on your record is not the same as CSA. Points in that program are only supposed to affect you if you got them during a DOT inspection by a trained inspector. Like others said, if you didnt not get a DOT inspection, pay it and don't worry about it. Especially since you admit that it was kind of a road side plea bargain the officer gave you.

 

I got a ticket for no seat belt in my car around a year ago. Ten dollar fine. In KS. State trooper told me it does not go on driving record or affect my cdl at all, even if I was in my truck. Paid my fine online that night and never once heard about it nor is it on my record. But that is in KS.

 

No seatbelt. $168.00. North Carolina. They can pull you over just for that. Happened to me in August.

 

You will be fine, ive had 2 tickets in LA over the past 3 years from local cops in LA and neither one went on my CDL or personal drivers license, and both tickets were more serious than a seatbelt ticket.