Falsification

From the page...."Drivers who already take shorter breaks during the work day could comply with the rule by taking one of the shorter breaks and extending it to 30 minutes. "

No combining.

 

It says the same thing. Nothing about combining breaks.

Drivers who already take shorter breaks during the work day could comply with the rule by taking one of the shorter breaks and extending it to 30 minutes.

 

What if i took an hour break yesterday, so today is covered by yesterday lol

 

I'm pretty sure it's because there are just enough drivers willing to be abused, that cause the rest of us to always be fighting against abuse.

 

As for editing e-logs, my company's system doesn't allow drivers to edit any entries. Only the guy in the office has that power. BUT, when any entries are edited by him, there is a notation put on that days log about what was changed and why. That way, during an audit, the DOT can see it. Too many 'corrections' throws up a red flag.

Just about every company I have worked for has had the same 'written' policy. They relieve me of my responsibility for the load once I bump the dock, unless the customer requires me to be present for the load or unload. And every one of those companies has had some sort written authorization.

As for the accuracy of logging time, on/off/sleeper at a customer, there is a simple option. Reg's say "multiple changes of duty status within the same city, town or township can be grouped together and logged as one". So if it takes you 15 to check in, open your doors and back in, then 10 to get your paperwork and close your doors...log 25 on line 4, some time on line 1 for pottie trips and snack runs, the rest on line 2...and it is legal to do it that way provided you have a sleeper, and you weren't required to be inside. If a PA DOT cop accuses you of lying or falsifying, the burden of proof it on him, not you. If he asks, I was in the sleeper except for a quick checkin and backing into my assigned door, pulled out and closed the doors...oh and 2 pee breaks. My arrival and departure times at that location are accurate to my log entries, the time in between falls under the multiple changes at one location clause. Write me a ticket if you disagree, and my lawyer and I will see you in court...and it is said with confidence, and a smile.

 

There is no relation on how much time to show. But common sense days it takes a few minutes to check in and back up to the door, plus a few minutes to get the bol and close the doors. I've been doing this for 20 years now. Have always showed 15 minutes with a box. 15 to an hour with a flat. And never had a problem with law enforcement over it.

 

By the book the only time you have to log on duty while at a shower is time actively spent working and supervising a load being loaded. Any time you spend just sitting in the truck while they load you sgould be logged either sleeper or off duty. I haven't read the full book version of the regs in a while, but back when i did their was even a note in their about day cab operators sitting at the wheel for a pto pump operation being off duty.

 

I think you guys are crazy, my log book is always legal.

 

Exactly. See Bishop v. UPS.

 

What read on the fmcsa website and was told by my company. Anytime waiting to be Dispatched, waiting to be loaded or unloaded or while loading and unloading is supposed to be logged on line 4. I even remember that from driving school. Maybe it's changed but that's the rule I follow