Ultra Low Sulfur Fuel

You should not go by anything anyone tells you in these studies or reports.
You should go by what the manafacture tells you to use if your truck is designed to burn the 15 ppm diesel then that is what you are suppose to use.

I have read that it will damage the engine if you use the wrong fuel.

 

Well I know of people who deliver brand new motor homes and trucks to dealers that have put the wrong type of diesel into the truck, one tank, and the engines have had to be replaced.

 

No that's not right. You got LSD. You're getting this 80% refinery requirement confused with what is actually being pumped. What is listed on the pump is what you're getting. UNLESS THE OPERATOR OF THAT FACILITY IS BREAKING THE LAW. And some do because they think diesel is diesel. That's the way it used to be. You could take anyone's diesel at the tank farm and sell it at any location. You could have Chevron diesel being sold at a Texaco station. There were no additives so it didn't matter. Now it does. You can't mix ULSD with any other type of diesel. It must be stored by itself and sold through pumps that list ULSD on the side of the pump. I've hauled alot of diesel and I know. It's like selling regular gasoline as premium. You just can't do it.

If it were me getting fuel and I didn't see the ULSD sticker on the pump I'd move on. Even if the employees there tell you it's ULSD I wouldn't take their word for it because someone is falling down on the job and not placing the correct stickers on the pump.

 

Gonna take a left turn here - the "void the warranty" phrase caught my attention...

I *HEARD* from the rumor mill that Cummins, Cat, AND Detroit are all saying that if you turn the governor down on their engines to something like 65mph or lower, it will void the warranty.

I find that... interesting. Not that it's going to stop any medium to large company from doing it. The perceived savings in fuel must certainly outweigh the likely cost of engine work on moderately new trucks.

 

That is funny that if your turn dow the trucks lower than 65mph it voids the warranty.
The manafactures make the program for the trucks in which the companies use to turn down the governor they can adjust all of the things to make the trucks run right.
I do not belive that the governor speed under 65 will void the warranty.

 

I would put exactly the amount of faith into that rumour as you would into any Elvis sighting.

Come to think of it, Elvis sightings might be more reliable.

 

This seems to be a problem. There must be thousands of 08' and 09' trucks on the road right now and a lot of misinformation.

I was at a Flying J, don't remember where, and the manager there said that all the pumps were ULSD. He said the pumps with the big ULSD sign, hanging above the pumps, ensure that your receipt says ULSD on it. But he said they're all ULSD. He didn't say anything about the small stickers on the pump which identify it as LSD or ULSD.

And for an issue that could possibly lead to the destruction of thousands of truck engines, there's really a lack of information on the web.

They just throw this stuff out there and if anything happens, "it's the driver's fault" of course.

I just called Flying J Corp. and could not get a real person on the phone to answer my question.

 

Usually the first 2 or 3 pumps are usld. Most ts have big signs above the pumps stating which is which.

 

joetro and I both worked for the same company, (different terminals) that had, (still has) their trucks governed to a top speed of 60 mph. Couple of weeks ago, I caught up with one of the drivers on I-10, near the terminal. I slowed to 60 to bs with the driver, then having time to spare, followed him to the company shop to say hello to the wrenches. Because Sentinel Transportation purchases such a large amount of the Cummins equipped KWs, they can handle certain warranty issues "in house", and at the time of my visit, one unit was in the shop for some sensor for the dpf, another was in for a turbo replacement, BOTH under warranty.
I can't speak for the other types of engines, but governing the Cummins ISM to 60 MPH apparently will NOT void the warranty.