Transmitting hot or just fine?

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by The Ed, Jul 11, 2016.

  1. Ougigoug

    Ougigoug Heavy Load Member

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    Like it or not CB and HAM are somehow related in a way....

    For some of us HAM is a natural step after CB....
     
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  3. The Ed

    The Ed Bobtail Member

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    I wouldn't transmit w/o an antenna or a dummy load. Any CB shop can check it out w/o the manual or schematics. Will this help? http://www.radiomods.co.nz/unidenpc66pc66a.html

    I have a dummy load. It's a quart paint can with an array of resistors inside equaling 50 ohms. I printed a picture of Red Fox and taped it on there ("You Big Dummy").

    I've come across that page. L8-10 and L13 are part of the output network from the final transistor to the antenna. If I am reading the schematic right, it's a collector-modulated transmitter just like most CB radios I've seen. That means it achieves 100% modulation (and works the best) when the audio from the modulator makes the voltage on the final's collector peak at 24v and valley at 0v. That would mean the peak envelope power would be four times the idle carrier power, which should be 12 watts. I seem to remember reading that barefoot CBs are 4 watt radios, not sure if that's PEP or carrier.

    Without a service manual having a detailed transmitter alignment procedure, I don't want to tweak these. The other option would be to get a new CB, measure the output of the rig, and then compare. It could be that I have a modulator problem.

    I don't want to mess with the output network without a procedure because it could screw with the harmonic suppression. This is where you generate interference that gets you noticed. I'm going to see if there are CB shops in the area but they'll likely want more than I paid for the radio to look at it.

    For now I'm not going to sweat it. I'll revisit the radio's performance when I have something to compare it to. Without an antenna it doesn't matter if the radio puts off 4 watts or 40.

    Ed

     
  4. bored silly

    bored silly Road Train Member

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    thats called freedom of choice...its too each his own.
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    Look I'll make this simple for you, even though I'm not a guru or what ever.

    The design layout is common. The components are the same in many uniden radios, but with different part numbers like instead of l11, it may be l14.

    So here is the help. Go to the link below, it is the pdf for the pc33/55 service manual, download it and then read page 8 - that's the transmit alignment instructions. Then look at the schematic (I know you can read it) and compare that to the pc66 schematic to see what the components are labeled as.

    These two radios may be different in a couple features but uniden is a cheap manufacturer and used the same design for many radios.

    There you now have a secret on how to align a pc66

    http://www.cbtricks.com/radios/uniden/pc_33/graphics/uniden_pc33_pc55_sm.pdf
     
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  6. Bout Z

    Bout Z Light Load Member

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    You should be able to find the service manual at cbtricks.com. The uni 66 is the same radio ( just an older version) of the uni 68. And also the same radio as a cobra 25, only the labeling of the vr's, tuning cans etc...will be different on the cobra. You'd just have to cross reference the schematic. Hope this helps
     
  7. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Where do you think most of us got our radio start?

    Amazing that most of us moved on and up in knowledge while still willing to help others without getting ripped off.
     
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  8. Ougigoug

    Ougigoug Heavy Load Member

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    Whatever!
     
  9. The Ed

    The Ed Bobtail Member

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    Much appreciated. I suspected that this would be the case but I always try to gather information before just turning the tweak tool loose on the adjustment points.
     
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  10. The Ed

    The Ed Bobtail Member

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    So, good news.

    I aligned the thing while watching the output on an oscope. It gets 3 watts of carrier, if my meter is to be trusted. When I whistle into it, I can see the modulation envelope does exactly what I'd expect from an AM transmitter. The radio has an automatic drive limiter so it reduces AF drive if it's seeing over-modulation. I can see this in action on the scope.

    Although I'm only seeing 3w carrier, that is not as big a problem, as the difference between 3 and 4 watts in radio is hardly anything.

    As far as I'm concerned, it's time to make an antenna.

    Ed
     
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  11. bored silly

    bored silly Road Train Member

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    well you can only go so far with a cb radio as someone else said on here..especially in a truck and ive reached that point..and ill be the first to admit ive got way too much $$$$$ into what ive got. its sad but you can rarely have a good conversation while driving or in a truck stop about cb radios with someone. but ill only let this hobby go so far.i have no plans when im much older to sit in front of a mic at a base station and talk and listen to crap...ive been doing that for years. nuff said
     
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