OK... Am I misinformed or are they right?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by JJKid, Jul 2, 2016.

  1. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Lady must be new. The worst kind. Break your nuts on the small things not required.

    Invoke this DataQ. I never heard of it. Then again I have never has a inspecion go badly the way yours did.

    And they pay 300 now for 30 minutes inspecions? Ha. I'll hit every open scale house and offer to let the cops inspect me several times a day.
     
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  3. poppapump1332

    poppapump1332 Road Train Member

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    Not required, my loose leafs don't even have a recap on them!
     
  4. bretts

    bretts Bobtail Member

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    When you Data-Q, aka challenge the inspection, the request goes to the agency that issued the violation. The agency will review the request, discuss it with the officer, and issue a final rule. They may amend the violation, remove it, or deny the request. You the driver or the company official can Data-Q the inspection.

    In your case I would recommend Data-Q the inspection.to have the violation removed. The recap is not required.
     
  5. keitht

    keitht Light Load Member

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    I am a CVSA certified inspector.

    The recap is not a required item and is not required to be included on log sheets. Obviously, if it's not requred to even be on the sheet, it's not required to be filled out. Log sheets are required to include these 11 items per 395. 8 (d):

    (d) The following information must be included on the form in addition to the grid 1) Date;(2) Total miles driving today;(3) Truck or tractor and trailer number;(4) Name of carrier;(5) Driver's signature/certification;(6) 24-hour period starting time (e.g. midnight, 9:00 a.m., noon, 3:00 p.m.);(7) Main office address;( Remarks;(9) Name of co-driver;(10) Total hours (far right edge of grid);(11) Shipping document number(s), or name of shipper and commodity;
     
  6. JJKid

    JJKid Medium Load Member

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    Keith -- I have a question. Please advise on the below...

    Does the driver signature (top portion of the logbook) need to be signed at the beginning of the day or the end of the day? Is there an actual rule stating it needs to be signed at the end of the day to certify all entries are valid? The reason I am asking is because my friend received a general form & manner violation was signed at the time that he was stopped at the scale. Is this DATAQ worthy?
     
  7. bretts

    bretts Bobtail Member

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    49 CFR 395.8, Interp 24 (Paper Logs)

    Question 24: When must a driver complete the signature/certification of the driver’s record of duty status?

    Guidance: In general, the driver must sign the record of duty status immediately after all required entries have been made for the 24-hour period. However, if the driver is driving at the end of the 24-hour period, he/she must sign during the next stop. A driver may also sign the record of duty status upon going off duty if he/she expects to remain off duty until the end of the 24-hour period.


    49 CFR 395.8 Interp 28 (Electronic logs that are not AOBRD, ELD, or other automatic logging device)

    Question 28: May a driver use a computer, tablet, or smartphone (that is not an Automatic On-Board Recording Device) to create, electronically sign, and store the record of duty status (RODS)?

    Guidance: Yes. A driver may make manual duty-status entries to a computer, tablet, or smartphone program that is used to generate the graph grid and entries for the record of duty status (RODS) or log book, provided the electronically-generated display (if any) and output includes the minimum information required by §395.8 and is formatted in accordance with that section. The driver must sign the RODS (manually or electronically) at the end of each 24-hour period to certify that all required entries are true and correct.

    (A) If electronic signatures are not used:
    • The driver must print and manually sign the RODS daily.
    • The driver must have in his or her possession the printed and signed RODS for the prior seven consecutive days (if required on those days).
    • The driver should be given an opportunity to print and manually sign the current day's RODS at the time of the inspection.
    (B) If RODS have been electronically signed:
    • At the time of an inspection of records by an enforcement official, the driver may display the current and prior seven days RODS to the official on the device’s screen.
    • If the enforcement official requests printed copies of the RODS, the driver must be given an opportunity to print the current and prior seven days RODS (if required on those days) at the time of inspection.
     
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