7/70 8/80 rule

Or flipping burgers at McDonald's for 18 hours a day which DOT has no jurisdiction over but you are still required to log flipping burgers by DOT if you planned driving later that week

 

Guidance on the FMCSA website states quite clearly that you do NOT have to retroactively fill out log sheets for the 7 previous days that you met the requirements for the 100 air-mile exception if you will not be eligible to claim the exception today. You are only required to have the log sheet for the day you can not claim the exception. You must start the log book page as soon as you become aware that you will not be eligible for the exception, logging back to the start of your day as accurately as possible.

See question 21:

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/part/395?guidance

 

Won't even argue...office generally made their own "rules" anyway.

 

They can fire you for whatever they want!

If you ran your hours without getting a reset yes, they will fire you

 

If no logs are ran as you stated then why are you worried about it?? Are you on the clock? Make pecentage? What? No logs more money,, or are you complaining because you want to be home more then you'll switch this post to " worst company to work for" cause your not making money and they work me too hard. Heck if I had no logs it would be balls to the walls making money!!!

 

...which is why logs are required! Too many fools didn't know when to shut 'er down and rest for a while.

If I can't make more than enough in 40-60 hours per week, I'm working the wrong job. I don't live to work. No point in working yourself into an early grave, especially when it means working through all of the important things that make life worth living. I work to provide the means to enjoy my life...roof over my head, food on my plate, a loving wife & family, good friends, hobbies, etc...

Hell, even 40-60 hours per week is too much sometimes...but that's about my limit. Beyond that just cuts into my time available for the reasons why I work. If I ain't got time for them, why work at all?

 

I drive under the exemption for a local fuel company. In short if you drive within the 100 air miles, and you are released from duty within 12 hours of starting duty, you don't need to log hours. Provided you don't go over the 60/70 rule or 70/80. You also must have at least 10 continuous hours off between shifts. There isn't a 34 hours restart available under this exemption.

So if you drive 12 hours on Monday through Friday, got off work at 6pm, you couldn't return to work until Sunday night at 6pm. If you drove 8 hours a day, you could work indefinitely (or until the federal labor law limit is reached which used to be 21 days, but has nothing to do with DOT) because you never reach the hour limit in 7 or 8 days.

 

The 34 still exists for those running the 100 air-mile exemption. ALL of the HOS rules apply, except you don't need the 30 minute break. You are only exempted from having to fill out a log book IF you meet the requisites for claiming the exemption. If you're off for 34 hours, you start over at 0 on your 70 when you get back to work.

 

A driver is not required to create a standard log if the following criteria are met:

1. The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;
   
2. The driver (except a driver salesperson) returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;
   
3. A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty, and does not exceed 11 hours maximum driving time following 10 consecutive hours off duty;
   
4. A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 8 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty, and does not exceed 10 hours maximum driving time following 8 consecutive hours off duty; and
   
5. The motor carrier maintains time records for 6 months showing:
   
   • The time the driver reports for duty each day,
   • The time the driver is released from duty each day,
   • Total number of hours on duty each day, and
   • Total time on duty for the preceding 7 days for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.

Beginning July 1, 2013, a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver must not drive if he/she has not had an off-duty and/or sleeper-berth break of at least 30 minutes in the past 8 consecutive hours.

Time records are not required for days on which the driver does not work. Drivers are not required to have copies of the time records in their possession.

A driver can cross a state line and still come under the 100 air-mile radius exemption, if the five criteria listed above are met.

A 100 air-mile radius driver is not exempt from the 60-hour/7-day or 70-hour/8-day limit.

100 air miles are equivalent to 115.08 statute miles.