Schneider National Carriers - Green Bay, Wi.

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  1. badsey

    badsey Medium Load Member

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    they probably should have never dispatched him if those scrap bales were not ready, but he could of been on the end of a multitruck dispatch and he was the last to get his bales.

    Most likely he was heading to Rincon, GA (maybe Pakatka,FL) with those bales also.

    When you are a driver you sit, he probably just took a 34hr break (a restart to get 70hrs over 8 days back)

    If you are interested in any job (especially driving truck) keep your problems to yourself. If they ask if you drink aways say no = these companies don't want to take chances on people.
     
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  3. ziggystyles

    ziggystyles Road Train Member

    I dunno, I think its more...right to be truthful, open, and honest. Maybe that's just me.
     
  4. BEROMO

    BEROMO Bobtail Member

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    I was told over and over again on the phone by a Schneider recruiter that I would get the cpm in writing that we had discussed.....

    The only contract they have you sign is for their VERY EXPENSIVE TUITION only regardless whether you have a CDL or not

    nothing to say about what was discussed weeks before except that "the recruiter must have been new and doesn't know"......

    Do these people really get away with this balony? :biggrin_25517:
     
  5. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    YuP!
    All the time it seems.

    Generally speaking though, Schneider is usually considered one of the better starter companies. I began my driving career with them and they delivered everything they promised, and more. I ran out of the Los Angeles office --- Santa Fe Springs at the time, with the yard in Fontana which moved to Montebello, then back to Fontana. I spent nearly five years with Schneider --- became a driver trainer and did a local gig out of Anaheim before moving on to greener pastures.

    I hope things work out for you.
     
  6. ziggystyles

    ziggystyles Road Train Member

    IS...this seriously all you got? First lesson learned...never, trust, a, recruiter. Never. Second, in writing isn't legally binding. Sorry.

    Their contract is not for you to get a CDL, its for the training required to get the CDL. They can't predict if you are a unsmart person and will bomb the exam 234 times. The training is for the schooling. Man...and seriously...read the contract again. if you still think its expensive, read it again, and again, and again. Then some more until you realize the truth.
    Schneider pays for your training. You sign a contract with them to repay them for the training.

    The cost is something around 4500 bucks. Not bad for learning a new career and a skill that will make some good money. Each paycheck they take out a whopping 12.5 bucks from your paycheck. That goes towards the loan which is at zero interest unless you quit or get canned. AT THE SAME TIME, THEY pay 50 dollars each paycheck towards the loan. 62.5 bucks each week towards the loan, MOST of it THEY pay.
    So yeah, crunch the numbers and you pay very little. lol...very expensive...good one!
     
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  7. BEROMO

    BEROMO Bobtail Member

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    I agree with you Zig. You are right. Let me add a positive about Schneider and stop sounding like a cry baby and take my lumps like an adult....

    Schneider National Carriers is a great company to start out with or if getting back into the trucking industry. The training is very througho although they are quite strict with their policies.

    My story:

    Being an owner of a small plumbing company in Orange County California and have been in real estate and property management for years, I felt it was time for a change in careers - something exciting and different. I made a decision to give commercial driving a try.

    After the bad experience I had with another trucking company a couple of years ago I really researched the different companies on line - Swift, CRST, CR England etc and opted to go with Schneider.

    I expressed my concerns with the Schneider recruiter and she reassured me that everything is in contract and in writing including the pay scale and if I had any questions to call her immediately.

    The second day in class at the beginning of our first break I took the class room instructor aside and asked him about the contract - I read through it and it didn't have the pay scale cpm I had disscussed with the recruiter anywhere on it.

    The following day I was called out of class by the instructor to have a pow wow with his boss and the one who handles driver trainees (ex police officer What was his title? ummm?). I asked this individual if I can have in writing the cpm that the Schneider recruiter specifically said I would get so that there are no misunderstandings later.

    His response - "We don't put that in writing, the recruiter you talked to must be "New"

    I was kind of hesitant, you see I had heard that song before. I considered it momentarily and decided to stay......

    Everything was going great! The staff was super and my class mates were nice people. Although it seemed to me we had joined the millitary forces (lots of personel from the millitary!) it was going smoothly

    One evening after a long day of practice driving and classroom I decided to stay in my hotel room relaxing and studying. I ordered a gourmet pizza and a nice bottle of Pinot Grigio and took it to my room. My plans were to shower up and study for the rest of the evening and turn in early.

    The following day after lunch I was out on the road with my trainer practicing my skills when he gets a call. After he was finished with his call he asked me to head back to the yard to practice backing. Once we were there he told me the head honcho (the ex police officer - what was his title?) wanted to see me.

    ( A little background on this Head guy - Ex police officer, shot in the line of duty which forced a career change because his wife did not like the stress)

    Anyway.....

    Walking across the yard I noticed all my classmates were there too. We were sitting around waiting to find out what was going on when one of the training instructors asked for the men and women to be separated into two different rooms. It was just two women - myself and my room mate in one class room and all the fellas in the other room.

    My room mate and I are sitting there wondering what the hell is going on when all of a sudden in walks this ex-police guy like a cop on a bust holding in a plastic bag by his finger tips my bottle of Pinot Grigio!

    Uh oh! I knew what was coming because I did bend their rules - However, to embarrass me in front of all my classmates as if I was some kind of degenerate to be made an example of?

    I mean really, it's not like I was holding wild drunken parties in the hotel and not showing up for class. It was just a small miscalculation on my behalf and I feel that a slap on the hand would have been suffient enough.

    Of course I got kicked out of the training program.

    Although I found the reaction rather harsh, however I feel it's for the best. I would rather work for a company that doesn't treat me like a child. I am a responsible adult and can make my own decision on whether I can handle a glass of wine or two on my time off.

    Bottom line is that if you choose to go with Schneider you have chosen one of the best, but be sure not to infringe on their rules even in the slightest. Schneider is unforgiving and ridged as far as their policies and rules are concerned. It's just as if you had joined the millitary and if I had wanted to join the millitary I would have done so years ago.

    No thanks to Schneider.
     
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  8. BEROMO

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    I agree with you. :yes2557:
     
  9. AfterShock

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    I don't get it!
    You've admitted that YOU made a mistake by breaking Schneider's rules while still in orientation, no less, and were dismissed because they enforced their rules --
    yet you STILL hold a grudge against Schneider?

    Good Grief!
    By breaking the rules against consuming alcoholic beverages, you sent a message to them, loud and clear. Alcohol is a HUGE no-no in the trucking industry. How can they trust that you won't do the same thing when out on the road and out of their sight?

    YOU made a BIG mistake, not Schneider.

    Have you considered that by bad-mouthing Schneider for disregarding their rules, a mistake on YOUR part, that you're doing others a dis-service?
    I think it's safe to assume that if others follow the rules they WON'T experience what you did.

    Why should YOU be an exception to their rules?
     
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  10. badsey

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    most of the students do not make it thru school and past the first year (year and 1/2 now) to pay off the tuition. <10% (maybe even 5%)

    The ones that come in all excited and want to be truckers are usually the first to go.
    The ones that figure they will be living in the truck and not a hotel.
    The ones that can't figure out the heater (Webasto)
    Mental weakness, maybe family.
    First year at the lower pay is tough.
     
  11. BEROMO

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    I am not "BAD Mouthing" Schneider this is my opinion, and I did not say I should be an acception to their rules. Their rules are their rules, I simply didn't think I was doing any harm. Yes, my mistake. As for being a "HUGE" mistake - I don't think so.

    I did bend their rules a tad and like I stated before, having a glass of wine with dinner in my room and not going any place, just studying for the evening, was an error in judgement on my behalf. And if they needed to so desperately make an example of someone - glad I could help.

    They could have talked to me discreetly instead of calling all my teammates and staff in from their training and interupting them at 2:00 pm in the afternoon to witness the humilation as if I was some degenerate alcoholic or party animal that tore up the hotel room having a wild party or something.

    As for "trusting me" out of their sight, I do not drink and drive whether driving a truck under a load or waiting around for one or my own automobile for that matter. I am a responsible adult and drink responsibly.

    Schneider would not be a good choice for persons like myself that are independant and are not used to being treated like a dorm-room child.

    As a matter of fact I was having grave reservations about Schneider National even before this happened when they could not give me a straight answer on the cpm. I was orginally told over and over again that all this would be in writing on a contract - of course that was just plain S*** of the Bull.

    And so Mr. AfterShock, lets just leave it alone now. You have your opinion and I have mine.

    You sure you aren't a representative of Schneider? Because you sure are vicious at defending them.

    Have a good day.
     
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