Crazy securement you have seen?

I'm still waiting to hear who the experts are and how they have been crowned experts.

I assume it will be a long wait.

 

I'm leaning towards the guy from Oh . with the green tractor. Lol

 

Straight from the FMCSA. Notice in the middle where it says to use at least 2 tie downs at both the front and rear of the cargo. It does not say anywhere that you need 4 points of securement for autos or machinery that weigh less than 10,000 pounds.

 

At least 2 tiedowns at both the front and the rear...

"both " is key word there.

2 tiedowns, at the front and the rear, is 2 tiedowns.

2 tiedowns, at BOTH the front AND the rear, is 4 tiedowns

This picture is also from FMCSA:

 

Your picture is invalid, if a piece of machinery, or a automobile has 2 tie down points on the front, and 2 on the back, there is no reason you cannot use two chains and two binders to secure the cargo and prevent the forward, side to side and rearward movement as long as the cargo is less than 10,000 pounds. You're getting hung up on the the 2 tie downs and thinking to narrow minded.

 

That's not the actual regulation, so the use of "both" is meaningless.

(1) Automobiles, light trucks, and vans must be restrained at both the front and rear to prevent lateral, forward, rearward, and vertical movement using a minimum of two tiedowns.

That's the actual regulation, you need two tiedowns, they need to cover the aggregate, and they need to be at the front and back. It's very easy to use two tiedowns and get the g force requirements, as long as you don't cross them and/or go to spools or stake pockets that are too close to the attachment point on the vehicle.

The picture you posted is of a securement system that is designed to go over the wheels and falls under a different portion of the reg.

(3) Tiedowns that are designed to fit over or around the wheels of an automobile, light truck, or van must provide restraint in the lateral, longitudinal and vertical directions.

With towing, I find it is pretty rare for 4 tiedowns to be used, with the exception being when over the tire straps are used. Even guys that say "I always use a four point tiedown" will only have 2 or even 0 tiedowns. Note: I'm talking legal tiedowns, that's a big distinction when you move into the towing world.

 

That was his way of telling everyone that he's the expert.

 

Im kind of gathering that.

My questions seem to get avoided.

 

Quit asking such difficult questions, we're truck drivers for cryin' out loud, not attorneys. Lol

 

Fascinating.