Managing the 70 hour rule various strategies

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Rawlco, Sep 4, 2006.

  1. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Just making sure your hubby does know once that clock starts by him entering lines 3 or 4 he only has 14 hours to do his 11 hours in right?

    SO he can't drive 2 hours, stop 1 hour ,drive 3 hours ,sleep 4 ,drive 5 ,stop 1 hour , drive 1 and so on. In this case above once he drove that last 1 hour he was in violation of his 14 hour rule. He didn't violate the 11 because he only drove 11 hours total but over his 14 hour by 1 hour.

    Just checking to make sure.
     
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  3. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    Yep, he knows it. He started with Werner (paperless log). He had one oops on the 14 hour shortly after he started for Celadon, but hasn't goofed on that since. He has actually checked with Logs a couple of times when he wasn't sure about something. I'm the one that would have a problem with the new logging. I got spoiled under the old rules!:biggrin_255:
     
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  4. Part Time

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    My problem is'nt with the 70 hour rule. I need to know how many days prior to the drive day I need to show on my log. I work for a construction company and only drive once or twice a month. The rest of my time is spent running the jobs. The boss says Ionly need to show the day before driving, but I have heard that it should be 7 days.Please lead me in the right direction.
     
  5. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    You are required to show the past seven days.
     
  6. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    It depends on where and what you are doing.

    If you only drive the truck a couple of days of the month, I am assuming you are most likely only going to drive the truck locally, then the answer is one way.

    If you are driving the truck outside of the 100 mile rule, then the answer is another way.
     
  7. rollnrock

    rollnrock Light Load Member

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    The 70 hour rule is "time on-duty" (lines 3 & 4) so 8.75 hours a day (on-duty + driving) for 8 days (8 X 8.75 = 70) which
    then means line 4 subtracts from your drive time and if you stick to the 8.75 on duty per day at best you're getting 8.5 hours
    of driving (8.75 - 15 minute pre-trip = 8.5)?

    How many drivers can drive such short periods and make the delivery time?

    Don't most drive close to 11 and do a reset?

    I'm starting with MAY on the western 11 and if the loads have gracious delivery times I could see sticking to the 8.75 a day
    and still make it.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2008
  8. Chuckster

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    This logbook stuff is harder than I thought? I'm a newby and start orientation next week. I want to run as hard as is legally possible, I will try your option 1 to see how it works. Thanks alot
     
  9. Samantha82580

    Samantha82580 Medium Load Member

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    Chuck - My only advice.....read read read....Here and on the websites that Logs and others have provided. They will probably NOT show you or tell you everything during training. Most will have to be learned on your own.

    About these 70-hour strategies....I don't see how in the world one could keep from running out of hours when you have pre-plans that set you in one place today at a certain time, then tomorrow at a certain time, the day after you can only drop after a ridiculous time. Hubby has ran his hiney off and we are on day 6 after a reset. He will only be able to work for 5 hours tomorrow. I even sit down and tried to plan his driving around his pre-plans so he wouldn't run out....it doesn't matter how much you plan, someone, somewhere will hold you up costing you some hours. I am NOT complaining though, he got some good miles in this week and has seen a lot.
     
  10. super10

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    Don't forget to add 15 minutes for a fuel stop and for load/unload times. In just my short few months of experience I can tell you that it will be close to impossible to stick with the 8.75 plan without having to be flexible here or there. You will have days where you may run less due to many reasons to include loading/unloading wait times, (I've had to wait 8 hours to unload because I missed my appointment by 10 minutes - "Sorry driver, I can't put you in front of the folks who showed up on time") While the theory is sound, there are circumstances which will let you run longer to play catch up or not run at all due to unforeseen but very palpable reasons.

    While we drive the trucks, it seems the HOS regulations drive us.
     
  11. jasdawn

    jasdawn Bobtail Member

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    can the 34 hour restart be taken as 12 sleeper 24 off duty???? i know a few years ago some states were not allowing it to be. company i just started working for want it done that way.
     
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