CMV or not?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by archer87q, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    Rental truck or not, if it is being used "in commerce", in the furtherance or any commercial enterprise, it is a CMV if the GVWR on the doorpost is over 10,000#.

    You are subject to ALL the Federal regulations. Markings, log book, HOS limits, med card, etc. despite what the owner says.

    As far as stopping at POE and scales, that is different for each State. Check with the State you are driving in to find out their rules.
     
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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    The owner is wrong . Although this may not be the exact truck a 16' box will be well over 10,000 GVWR
    http://www.enterprisetrucks.com/personalTruckRental.html
     
  4. 3 Dog Nite

    3 Dog Nite Light Load Member

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    If you decide to take this run, scale your 1st load. If you are determined to be a nonCMV, you can still get an overweight ticket if your loaded truck weighs more than the GVWR sticker on the door jamb. You don't have to pull into the scale houses to be weighed. Many states have weigh in motion scales embedded in the highway.

    You never mentioned what type of cargo you would have. I can't imagine that the owner would pay extra for a truck with a liftgate to deliver something light like styrofoam.
     
  5. truckon

    truckon Swamp Thing

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    This is not true.
     
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  6. RickG

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    It could just be the only trucks available had lift gates . Many Ryder trucks have lift gates because they are not low profile like UHaul trucks .
    The customer could also require liftgates for delivery .
     
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  7. Scalemaster

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    I do not know of any state that has enforcement on GVWR for weight.

    You may get cited for being over your REGISTERED or LICENSED weight, but not GVWR.
     
  8. live and learn

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    1. i have a good question,,,cargo vans that dont haul passengers or hazmat under 10,000lbs are all using MC numbers becuase they cross states lines.But there not FMCSA regulated,well MC numbers are a FMCSA rule.

      You are subject to FMCSA regulations if you operate any of the following types of commercial motor vehicles in interstate commerce:
      · A vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating (whichever is greater) of 4,537 kg (10,001 lbs.) or more

      · A vehicle designed or used to transport between 9 and 15 passengers (including the driver) for compensation, whether direct or indirect

      · A vehicle designed or used to transport 15 or more passengers including the driver and not used for compensation

      · Any size vehicle used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act (49 U.S.C. 5101 et seq.) and which require the motor vehicle to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (49 CFR Parts 100-177). This includes INTRASTATE Hazardous Materials carriers

    2. On FMCSA website,if you dont apply to the above then your not regulated,but then they say if you cross state lines then you need MC numbers in ADDITION to DOT numbers,,,,o_O,,,but your not regulated in the first place,,im confusedo_O
     
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