Decision Detroit S60 or DD15?

If you don't haul to California then go with the glider. From reading these boards the 2013 or newer DD15 have a revised emissions and alot easier to diagnose problems.

 

If you want to learn just how complex the new emission system are vs the S60 look at this guys form.http://rawze.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=38

It is for Cummins ISX but the DD15 has same setup. You can read how the system work and see why it so complicated.

I had DD15 emission box fail. The DOC filters failed or went bad. On the Detroit nobody seem to talk about how the DOC filters can not be changed. They are built into the emission box. So about 600,000 miles if they go bad or get dirty or the special coatings wear off. It's a $12,000 repair. Here the catch the DOC filters are in front of the DPF. So they system work by passing everything thru the DOC filters, soot and even fuel when regeneration driving down the road. So if you have a coolant leak and it going out the exhaust the coolant can mess up the DOC filters I believe

You should look into 2011 vs 2013 DEF system on freightliner. I think the 2011 were using air from air tanks to run the DEF pump or metering unit. The bad results were water and oil if in air tanks from not being drained . Then got pumped into the DEF system messing it up. So freightliner switched to an electric DEF pump in 2013 or something to solve this problem the 2011 and 2012 truck had.

 

Geez man.
It really is a no brainer.
The 2014 is the way to go.

 

the 2014 with the 60 series for sure.

 

I dunno.
My daily driver is a '08 Century with a 60 / 500HP/ 13 speed.
The Cascadia's I take for going on shuttle runs up the hill
( I-17 from Phoenix to Flagstaff ) will leave that 60 in the dust. I think our wrench has them set up though, and one is geared different than the others, but they will leave that 60 in the dust.
And that bit on 17 I'm referring to is basically 144 miles uphill with 3 good pulls.
Usually 78 or 79K.

 

That year is like the worst year of the series 60. We had one and that thing would drop to 90km/h on the hill near belleville 401westbound. Broke rocker arm twice, got towed twice. All other detroits we've had been good we also have a 2011 columbia glider with 1.7millon kms she runs good, that would be my choice a glider

 

Stay away from the new tech engines and trucks as long as you can. Dealers are ready to sell you the latest & greatest but NO ONE will stand up for you when you start having problems and you WILL. The S60 engines are cheap to repair and rebuild. The DD13 & DD15 are not rebuilding friendly. Though they get great fuel mpg it all gets taken away & more with the problems they bring.

 

The Cascadia with the same S60 leaves the Centry in the dust?

 

2014 Coronado with S60.