2 Job offers...Which one would you take

Not you Danch. I'm talking about others saying to take the per hour rate. Doesn't seem right to me.


Ed

 

Pretty much like any other job really. Go to the yard, grab the truck, drive a mile and load lime. Loading can be messy if you're not careful. We use suspension gauges to load there. Drive anywhere between 30 and 90 miles to a power plant, unload. May take 30 minutes, may take an hour, depending on the plant. Drive to cement mill, most times its less than 40 miles, but takes an hour, because it's all two lane roads. Get loaded on a scale, by someone running load chute. In and out in 15 minutes when all goes well. Drive two hours to redi mix plant and unload. Again, depending on the plant, it may take 30 minutes, or an hour. Most of ours are about 45 minutes. Then go for another load of cement, usually at a different mill, load, drive to another redi mix plant and unload. Then back to the yard, rinse the truck off and go home.

Generally I run 3 loads a day, and it's usually a 12 hour day at most.

 

Regional was less loading and unloading, and more driving. I usually loaded and unloaded one load every day.

 

That's down to the DC effect and it may as well be considered part of DC. Certainly has the traffic to qualify as DC.

 

That would put it out of the running for me. Why are they using a staffing agency to fill positions, what's wrong with the job?.

 

How do you know they were honest about the load time? You have never done the job. Let alone that job with his customers. Do you want to fill us in on what honesty he related to you?

O.K then reading between the lines: He runs a 1100-1200 mile turn that you'll take twice a week. So with this info:

$.46CPM/.38CPM = $.42CPM average. But since he split up the live and dead runs tells me that your driving back empty and their is more dead then live so say the average is $.40CPM

1200miles x 2runs x $.40cpm = $960 gross @ 50 hours driving @ 50mph average. Not counting loading, unloading, scaling, clean outs, pre-trips, fuel, truck repairs. Say add at least another 10 hours a week free for all that crap. Possibly more like 20+

$18 x ( 40 + 20 x1.5) = $1260 gross with same amount of overtime.

In fact if you only spent the same time working in the hourly job as you do driving in the first job:

$18 x (40 + 10 x 1.5) = $990 you make more money not even counting the free work.

Some will, many won't. The only reason they won't is because they want to start you off at a lower rung on the pay scale at ripoff places like the megas.

No its not. You are taxed on the marginal percentage of your income. The fact the money comes from overtime or commission makes not difference to the tax man.

Overall the constructing gig is probably pulling a small flat loaded with rails an posts. It will get you started in skateboard and the construction industry. All of which pays better and has more respect then any OTR van gig.

Dry bulk and tanker can pay good money but this gig isn't. I am sure there is a reason this gig isn't paying more. This dude probably has junk trucks and crappy customers and does not want to fix either. He could pay by the hour like other bulk and tanker companies but he would likely go poor do to these other issues.

You know everybody now days in the trucking industry think their training they provide an employee is worth gold. I am telling you it ain't. Most competent drivers can handle most aspects of the industry with just a couple days of initiation. If your an idiot, I am sure months of hand holding is precious. Best to look for jobs that don't assume your an idiot and pay you like one.

 

This simply is not true, today I loaded and delivered 2 loads, loading time of each was less than 15 minutes, unloading was about 30 minutes for each load. neither had any standby time, this is typical. It does vary some depending on product,

 

^^ Thats your gig. That is not all Dry Bulk gigs.

I am estimating by his pay structure and rate that their is more going on then the simple drop or blowout. Anytime pay is on the low side or the employer makes a convoluted complicated pay scheme, you can guess that their is more to the job then he lets on.

And of course read my post above if you have any doubts that the hourly job pays more.

 

Way too many unknowns with either job resulting in assumptions being made (I'm guilty too).

I'm leaning towards the bulk job simply because of my assumptions about a staffing agency temp position with a road contractor. Just doesn't fill me with confidence in long term prospects with that company. The extra pay (based on toomanybikes assumptions) will be little consolation if there isn't a permanent position offered by the company or the company gets outbid on a contract or two and has to get rid of people...last in first out etc.

Maybe the bulk job has junky trucks and crappie customers, we don't know, but if they are local it shouldn't be too hard to swing by their yard and check out the operation or maybe speak to one of their drivers.