How to load 4 car/Kaufman?

Hulld, ok so you're registered at 34k, minus 18k unloaded, which leaves you with 16k for cars, which is 4k average, and looking at your photo, this is what I thought would work for a load, and not much different than this. That front car probably only weighs no more than 3500, while the rear is maybe 5k or a little more. The other 2 are around 4500, and this would get you to around 16k cargo. You know I've looked at photos for many 4 cars including the infinity, and these photos were their photos at the factory 5 miles south of my house. They've got these photos behind a 4500 and a 5500, and a single axe semi. Like all manufacturers that I've asked, they couldn't explain how their photos don't depict them being overloaded, except the semi. The 5500 was pulling a 6 car infinity. It made a little sense, because they were all small/mid cars, no suv's. Unfortunately car sales have slowed, and the population is rapidly going towards all suv's, bigger/higher standing vehicles, but not low to the ground passenger cars. Most of these photos had either 50% or 60% suv's.
Guys I originally asked about the math and I just figured out I'm a terrible mathematician. For the GAWR, I'm not figuring in that the rear end already weighs 3500lbs.......plus the 5-6k payload, and there you go Terry. You're right! The rear GAWR is actually 9750 which is yes right there at 10k. However my original thought seems still true because pin weight of 5k with driver, tools, fuel would put the truck's GVWR over the 14K, per Chrysler's math.
So.....Hulld, you're saying that they basically only checked your gross and axle basically which is what the scales do? DOT should know the GVWR of that truck and trailer since they've seen enough of them, but if not they could look the truck up quickly from the office, or step out to look at your door/trailer label. Like I said, I think the tires are fine.

Don't worry all, I'm not trying a 4 car with this truck now, because it would be a headache and yes too much wear and tear, but hopefully you see my conversation going towards the 4500, but not going to give much wiggle room either especially for heavier, better paying loads. I talked with 2 haulers down at Infinity while I was there, and 1 had a 450 and the other a 4500, and both said the electric/hydraulic brakes that Infinity uses will stop the whole load no problem. They both had been hauling cargo in the oil fields, but the 4 and 5 car loads were way heavier, and they were questioning the durability of the truck longterm too.
Sorry for the length of the discussion, but I was taught to not only look before you leap but see and know where you're leaping, as you might just leap off a cliff.......like our world does really easily now days. Even though I have experience driving and loading stuff on the farm, and had to help load/unload some of the haulers we had at the dealership, I want to have as few problems as possible, and definitely government/DOT is one of the biggies if you're lucky enough to have 23 inspections over 2 years! Thanks again guys! Chris

 

One non-related question. So I'm going with a 2-3 car for now, and don't have a CDL yet, but will quickly, as I'm already studying. I need to know some stuff to limit DOT problems before getting that CDL. I already said I've got enough cash to ride around and not make much money for a few months, to get some experience and make some contacts, while practicing for that CDL. With a 42 foot trailer, no problem compared to farm junk equipment. So obviously I'm going to stay under 26k, but I will have a 5th wheel hitch, which I probably will move to a 4500 if I go that way in a few years. My neighbor who retired hauling, said that if I have that type of hook up, DOT will write me a ticket for not having a CDL no matter if it's under 26k. Is that true? I know in CA this is true, because they require anyone hauling for hire requires a CDL. Florida sounds pretty strict too. I actually agree with CA, but not under 26k. It should be a different kind of license showing you can simply handle a truck/trailer like RVer's should have. By the way, it doesn't show here, but I'm in Ft. Worth TX, and plan on staying within a day's drive for now. Anyone have any experience with this? Chris

 

Hulld and Terry, thanks again for your help. Terry my business plan is developing from this, hopefully you see that. So from your last two posts, are you guys, especially Hulld, basically saying that even with a 5th wheel hitch for stability, still the 4500 even would be too small for so much weight behind you, and being able to control that weight for safety? Is that the edge of hell Hulld? Of course I've read this already here. How much do the single axle semis weigh compared to the 9k weight for the 4500? Of course I simply want a truck along with a work truck, but I'm not opposed to the small semi, as long as it's as easy to drive and manuever around town. What were some of those recommended single axle semis again? Chris