Finally figured out why multiple 8-2 splits isn't as good as I thought

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Farmerbob1, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. Farmerbob1

    Farmerbob1 Road Train Member

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    Some folks responded and prompted me to look a bit closer at what happened in my 8-2-8-2 experiment. I saw why I had been a bit less efficient than I could have been. Next time I get a 2000 + miles load that's not really tight, I'll play with consecutive 8-2 splits again.
     
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  3. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    For me splitting forces me to run tighter and more efficiently. If I have a full 11/14 to play with it is too tempting to pull over all the time to go check shhhhtuff out.
     
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  4. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Yes you can.

    You are thinking about this way wrong. You don't ever have "negative driving time" so clear that out of your head. Also forget about a daily reset because that just confuses the situation.

    When you run out of driving hours requiring a break you can indeed continue working after your 11 or 14 ends, you just can't drive until you take a break. Same thing in a split. You can tap out your driving hours and still continue working. Their is no difference.

    The 2 comes in your 14. So? What is your issue with that. It only becomes an issue if you are working more then you are driving. If you are on a load that require lots of "own duty" time the spit will not work in your favor. But that does not mean it is necessarily a negative either. You can still stop if and when you want; burning up time is still burning up time.

    Splits can be a great way to live life on the road. They work best with long loads and lots of driving, but the can be useful in other situations where you need to make things work out.

    The biggest problem with splits is no one in any office understands them. Some in the office can talk about splits but rarely does anyone in the office understand them. It is common to have to explain you self to a dispatcher, planner, or even the DOT. Lot of times a planner will not give you a load because he cannot see where you have the hours to do it when in fact you have more hours then the guy that never runs a split!
     
  5. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    What he's saying is that he can't start his sleeper 8 until after the 15 minute PTI, which pushes back his start time and reduces the efficiency of the 8/2 split.
     
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  6. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    I know what he trying to say.

    The scenario is the same without the split. 15min post trip pushes back the start time for both a split or non split it is a non-issue. Their is no difference. You guys are making something out of something that is not there.

    I know what you guys are thinking but I don't know if I can explain why you are mistaken. Let me try. You think by tacking a 15min post trip on the back of the 11 (or 14) you are gaining extra time. You are not. Your work day is longer and you are just postponing your start time and not gaining anything. Got that much.

    A split is the same way. In your guys examples your start time is later. Same as non-split right? Only that 15min or whatever is carried over and subracted in what remainder you have left until you pick up the second half of the split, then it is factored out, since the new remainder of available hours is from the previous breaks finish time. Get it? I know you don't.
     
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    I Cosign this!!!
     
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  8. im6under

    im6under Heavy Load Member

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    best time for me to split:
    1) when i can make it home and avoid that 30 minute break.

    2) when the weather gets so bad i am not making good progress, pull over and sleep for 8.

    3) anytime i am on a run that requires some mutiple of 11, 22, 33 hours of driving and i have a 3- 9:59 hour delay. i can still make the run in 1,2,3 days instead of having to finish on the fourth. its all about preserving that drive time clock.
     
  9. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Here is another good one-- trip plan has you crossing the George Washington Bridge at 1700, height of rush hour. Stop in Connecticut 8 hours at the Pilot at 1400 and cross GWB at midnite instead.
     
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  10. dngrous_dime

    dngrous_dime Road Train Member

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    Or just take 287 across the Tappanzee....
     
  11. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    OK how about coming down I-5, looks like you're going to be crossing Los Angeles basin at the height of rush hour again, I say stop at Lebec Flying J for 8 then cross the basin at midnight lol
     
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