ELD IS GOING AWAY !!!!!

That is not the group driving this at all, wrong, wow.

 

I didn't say this was the group pushing for and lobbying for it, but that it is the group providing the impetus and excuse and violation stats to show the "need" for ELDs.

 

No matter how you word it, your opinion is BS.

 

Sorry, but the rebel "outlaw" O/O's are not the ones causing all the problems on the highways. That would be, well, we all know who lol......

 

Swift strikes again,

 

Agreed. O/O's for the most part have everything to loose, but hot foot Jonny driving for one of the Mega's or..... well you know.

 

I think it was pretty obvious, but since I didn't word it better, I will clarify that I meant stretching the 14 hours to 16 or 20, not adding it!
In other words, would you be comfortable driving after being on duty for 20 hours?

I have driven in most parts of the trucking industry, from heavy haul, to local city truck in the bay area cities and nor Cal mountains, to construction company dump trucks, water trucks, OTR, etc, and much of it involving me doing other work, either loading/unloading, operating what I hauled, wrenching at the shop or a jobsite, etc.

I personally think the hos rules are messed up, and they have not been a good fit for any industry I have been in! Lol
However, I also understand why they are needed.
For instance the paving/underground company dump truck. I was needed to haul equipment between jobs, and then haul material during the job, and sometimes we would have one crew doing daytime underground work one place, and then do a night time freeway paving project in another city. If I would have done it, that cheap boss would have had me driving for an entire weekend, because he didn't like having to hire dump trucks and heavy haulers when he could pay me peanuts to do it.

And I know plenty that will just be MEN and "get it done", as long as they can keep their eyes mostly open with more coffee and Monster drinks.
You personally may understand your limits, and turn down work when you are tired, and good for you! You are a credit to the industry.
But for every driver like you, there are 10 who, without hos rules, would drive until they killed someone, and for every driver like you, there are 2 who will push it regularly as long as they are on paper logs.

I would also point out that the 14 hour rule is actually often more important for a driver like you in a day cab, because your day tends to be longer by default.
You have to get up, take care of household chores, commute, etc, adding considerable time to your active day long before you actually have to go "on duty" because you are going to be driving soon.
So when 14 hours rolls around, you have actually already had maybe a 16 or 18 hour day, and by the time you get to bed, you have had a really looong day, and then while you may have 10 book hours off duty, how much of that was actually rest? And each day like that adds up.

And maybe you personally park your truck in your front yard, and have little household overhead, but this is not the situation for the average day cab driver.

I do wish that it were more flexible, more like Canadian hos for instance, because I wish I could take naps some days, but I also understand that hos rules are needed, because otherwise at least some drivers in all industries would be pushing themselves too hard, and kill more people.

 

Umm... He must have been trained by a mega! He can't be classed with O/O's...

 

When these guys start outnumbering the megas you might have a point.

 

I didn't say anything about rebel outlaws, or o/o being the source of all the problems on the road.

What I said is that most drivers who run paper logs, falsify them at least occasionally.
And I challenge any one of you to say with a straight face that you have never made a line longer or shorter than it should have been, to give more time, more miles, or hide a violation.
I am not saying that those times actually caused a wreck, or created an actual safety hazard, but that the log was not accurate to what you did.

The cops and politicians know this too, and they also know that the megas all run electronic logs, where any violations are easy to find and enforce, so it is the rampant and easy fudging of paper logs (which is almost all NOT the megas, but O/O and small companies) that provides the fuel for mandating ELDs.

The actual outlaws are another story, but they are a pretty small percentage, and to try to make it sound like I am taking about them, hides the issue that most drivers on paper logs do adjust them once in a while, and everyone knows it! Lol