Paper Log Distance to Time Question DOT

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Damaged_Goods, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. Damaged_Goods

    Damaged_Goods Light Load Member

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    The speed limit is no higher than 70 I believe on that stretch. I ran thru there a month ago. Half 65 and half 70 mph. Maybe. Can't remember exactly. I know for sure it didn't go beyond that....

    But I know Trucks can go 80 mph therefore making it possible to do it....but I'm asking if by standing by your log entry as Truth do you open yourself up to a Speeding ticket? If that's even legal for that...they won't need radar data to prove it for its right there in ink in your own writing in your logbook...
     
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  3. Crude Truckin'

    Crude Truckin' Alien Spacecraft

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    If you start showing average speeds above the posted speed limit, that's a good way for them to start wanting to dig in places you might not like, and in the end costing you more time than it's worth. Just my opinion. As far as issuing a speeding ticket based on logged driving time in the book, I think they have to have you on radar or something equivalent. I may be wrong.
     
  4. Crude Truckin'

    Crude Truckin' Alien Spacecraft

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    They flipped the calculator out on me at Tilford, SD. Marginal average speeds in the log turned into a level 1. Passed, but screwing around with my log ended up costing me more time than it was worth.
     
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  5. Big_Red

    Big_Red Medium Load Member

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    The main thing I've encountered is they check your time scale to scale in the state, that's the dead give away...if that looks odd or your acting visibly nervous...they'll go for the calculator and start number crunching point a to point b. They can't know your governed unless they have the appropriate computer to access the trucks ECU which to my knowledge none ever have so it's quite simple

    Know what time you passed the scales even if it was closed

    If they asked if you're governed...no you're not

    If they say well how come Tuesday you averaged 64 but today you averaged 74...respond with some joke about the load didn't pay enough to burn that kinda fuel etc etc.

    Say enough but not too much and get outta dodge. If you're on the west coast( CA, OR,WA,ID,MT especially) don't get greedy. Keep the door closed and turn your miles.

    If your showing speeds more than two miles over posted limit then...well....don't
     
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  6. Wooly Rhino

    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    The question you ask opens up many different cans of worms.

    First, the logs are for you. They are to protect you from the company making you work way to hard for too little money. They are not a punishment from the Government trying to keep you from making any money. There is no reason to falsify your logs. It is dangerous to do so as you will end up driving tired at some point. Also, wages are driven down by people cheating on their logs. We don't need that. Drive 3 miles under the speed limit and log what you do as you do it.

    Second. Logging maybe unconstitutional as it requires you to testify against yourself. Now I am sure the courts have some where ruled the other way as they have ruled you do not have a constitutional right to drive.

    Sorry no more time to preach. I have a break to do.
     
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  7. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    I don't see how anyone can calculate a trucks speed. Other then you obviously can't log the designated speed. not in the western mountains. And they have no idea on the power rating of a truck.

    For instance. a 500 horse truck will arrive much sooner then a 400 horse truck.
     
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  8. Big_Red

    Big_Red Medium Load Member

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    Exactly snowwy. Most people tell on themselves and never know it
     
  9. wore out

    wore out Numbered Classic

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    I guess I have that look cause they always break out the slide rule and the calculator. I have never been written a speeding ticket that way but have been threatened for sure
     
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  10. Big_Red

    Big_Red Medium Load Member

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    Well thinking about it...my "paper log" is on my iPad so I guess that makes a difference too.
     
  11. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Only ever been threatened once. Anymore I just log it as I do it. The most fudging I will do is say if I pull in to fuel or park or whatever and it takes forever for the circus to move out of the way for me to get to a spot.
     
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