The point is, you are not a legal motor carrier. Therefore you can't legally engage in interstate commerce. Do what you want. It doesn't affect me what so ever. But no matter how you try to spin it, it's illegal.
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If you don't have a dot number and an mc number. 750,000 in liability insurance. And a few other things. You can't legally do it.
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With all the valid complaints about reduced freight prices, it seems like out of the box thinking and looking at all avenues of revenue is the way to go however it seems like there's a good bit of resistance or archaic policies that prevent it.daf105paccar Thanks this. -
Respectfully, a private citizen using a vehicle or combination under 10K GVWR, that is not designed to carry more than 9 passengers, is not transporting Hazmat, but is involved in incidental commercial activity is not required to register as a legal motor carrier, apply for a DOT number, MC number, or carry $750K in liability insurance. For a while I was thinking about starting a side business and researched the FMCSA quite a bit. As a side result, I remember reading 49 CFR, specifically Part 390.5: Definitions, which specifies who is subject to the FMCSA regs.
EDIT: To be fair, you're partially right because the time I delivered the car my RV + trailer was over 10K lbs. There was no way for anyone to know since I don't have a company or plaster logos on my truck but technically, I was involved in interstate commerce and should have had a DOT number. Still seems to be a bit gray though because of the distinction between private person and being a company.
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I don't engage in occasion intermittent commercial activity. I engage in full time commercial activity. I don't have the time to sit around and look for the $500 that someone wants to pay to move an antique sofa.
$5500 a week is what I need to gross. Time is money. I'll leave UShip to the amateurs, illegitimates, and barrel scrapers. And I don't think any reputable broker for dry van freight is gonna even bother trying to put their load on UShip. And if they did, I probably don't even want to work with them. It would be a waste of time for me. Doesn't work with my business model. Maybe 1℅.
I appreciate the helpfulness and the idea to explore new avenues but I don't think at this time this is something I'm interested in pursuing. Maybe in the future. But thanks.
And about the Bill of Lading, it is legally required to have this document that states certain things about what is being hauled, from where, to where, what it is, and how much it weighs, among other things. I don't know the loopholes around it, or if you need it for occasional intermittent commercial hauling, but it probably is. When DOT stops you, they will want to see your bills.Last edited: Feb 3, 2017
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Thanks for the interesting perspective and sharing your reasons, I look forward to keeping up with your travels and numbers.
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I think the main reason besides price is thoese type of coustemers usually expect white glove service and can be a total pain in the ###. Wants to meet you at some crazy place and want you to help load it and it's always damaged or ruined when it arrives. They are always totally unprepared for the loading and unloading of the product. Also never on time and always full of bs.
Whith the freight we haul it is mostly loaded and unloaded by the coustemer in a facility designed and equipped for our vehicles.
Now that I write it, this sounds just like what we do in flatbed work!!!
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When it's no longer useful....lol...
I been looking at the hot maps all week.
Cleveland market got really hot this week. Tuesday, Wednesday, then everyone dispatched their truck there, and although there were still plenty of loads, there were also plenty of trucks posted. Like vultures flooding into pick apart the dead carcasses of freight. Those trucks leave a void behind them...but still, the map has been mostly pale today.
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I wonder who has time for skinflints shipping a motorcycle or grandma's couch except for fake people on a reality tv show in a ridiculous race to the bottom? If I had to look for scraps of nothing like that on u-ship or craigslist I'd sell my truck.LoJackDatHo, 2CAN and BoyWander Thank this.
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