Do I need a truck before I get my own authority?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by JLMorgan, Feb 3, 2017.

  1. redoctober83

    redoctober83 Road Train Member

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    Ifta only costs $12 a year a set up and that gives you all 48 and Canada.

    OOIDA IS NOT WORTH THE MONEY for getting your authority setup. Plus they don't get you your KY, NY HUT, OR Weight permit, or NM. Then there's the fact that they are the ones listed as the agent, you don't get the renewal notices, fmcsa notices, and you don't get your dot pin# so you can update mc150 every 2 years or make changes to your dot file if you add a truck or start hauling other commodities.

    The audit file they give you is nothing special, it's just your driver file, list of equipment, list of drivers you have, all basic stuff that you can put together yourself for free.

    OOIDA doesn't help you get your plates or setup your IRP account with your state office. They charge you $1,000 for what would cost you $500 at best before you get your plates. Don't forget to do your 2290 and ucr. Plus, OOIDA's insurance is crap, a lot of the big brokers, who you'll be starting with, won't accept them.

    Don't take shortcuts by hiring out the most important fist step of your business. If you don't know how to do it, you'll get fracked over in the end.

    The biggest reason not to use them is they gouge on the prices because they know you don't know any better.
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I was leased onto a company that paid 80%. I have a fistful of broker numbers / contacts. I did OK at 80%. The other 20 would make it gravy.
    I've 0 doubt in my mind that if you get in with a few guys, and do a good job, you will create a better mouse trap for your self.
     
  4. warrocgman

    warrocgman Light Load Member

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    I dont mind at all doing it all myself. thats why i didnt jump into it. The problem is making sure i have everything done and finding out what the everything is. I'm not in a hurry. I'm just trying to piece it all together. It is hard to trust what i can find on here because half of the stuff said is garbage.Perfect example is you dogging out the ooida for having a system put together for authority. How do i know you are not full of crap. I have to trust someone and i trust them more than you. Sorry They havent charged me a dime and they are informing me of what i need to do. They will do it for me for a price, but the advice is free.
     
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  5. redoctober83

    redoctober83 Road Train Member

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    You're right, you don't know me from Jack or anyone else on this forum. That still doesn't mean you should trust OOIDA blindly because they charge you a fee or claim they are all about the driver. What you should do is your research. Everything OOIDA offers you can do yourself for a lot less and that means you know who's contact information is being used when it comes to renewals and notifications.

    I tried to use OOIDA to help setup my Oregon tax account so I could run through there. OOIDA charged me $45 to submit the paperwork and wanted another $200 for the bond.

    For $45 they said my account would be setup up within 48 Hours so I could at least get a trip permit. About a week later I was needing that trip permit for Oregon, called the odot to get it and they had no record of an account being setup. Come to find out I could set it up over the phone for free and then could get and pay for trip permits online through Oregon state website.

    I was pissed and called OOIDA the next day and asked them what gives, you took my money but didn't do anything. Yeah, they wanted power of attorney documents signed, notarized and mailed back to them first before they would do anything. None of that was discussed on the call or in the email.

    I will say they were kind enough to send me my money back.

    Also in the process of setting up my Oregon account I found a bond company that charged $75 for the yearly bond that Oregon requires. That's $125 less than OOIDA wanted.

    Between the $45 fee and the extra $125 on the bond, that was $170 I saved by doing it myself. It took all of 30 minutes on the phone with Oregon and the bond company.

    The only thing I use OOIDA for is the BOC3 filing that comes with your annual membership.

    A list of prices if you do the stuff yourself:
    • UCR $75
    • Authority $300
    • Ifta $12
    • New Mexico Weight tax permit $12
    • NY HUT $4-8
    • Kentucky Weight tax permit $16
    All the weight tax permits you have to file quarterly except Oregon is monthly, which means if you let someone else setup the accounts you won't have access to the online filing systems. That's more money you get to pay for someone to file for you.

    Just keep that in mind when you pay someone to "help" set you up.

    A good resource and podcast is the "trucking with authority by Kenny Long". You can find the Facebook page and the weekly podcast and show as well. You can go to www.letstruck.com and click on the audio road link to see all the podcasts. He walks you through how to set everything up that you'll need.

    I truly do wish you the best of luck on your endeavors when you pull the trigger. A lot of us are here to help when we can and not lead just spout bs to lead you and others like you astray.

    I will close with this disclaimer, the prices are subject to change and OOIDA's prices might have changed since last May when I was getting my authority setup.
     
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  6. warrocgman

    warrocgman Light Load Member

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    Thanx. I have yet to spend a dime on anything from ooida or anywhere yet. Still in the business plan stage. Almost done with the rough draft tho. I am in no hurry. Still working and making good money. Making sure i am not pushing things thru before their time. Glad to hear you got your authority.Gives me hope.
     
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  7. trucko

    trucko Medium Load Member

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    Hi

    You seem to be very aware of this process
    I did it myself too, did not go through OOIDA. I did not like them, because without applying I got lot of envelopes from OOIDA as if I was already their applicant and if I did not pay fee it would cancel (????) I never applied for their services. So I bewared contacting them when I needed to register.

    I just need to ask few questions here just to make sure I am on right track

    I applied in URS on FMCSA website (I guess there is no fee for it)
    I got DOT and MC. I got my process agent who already filed process agent form.

    Now I am getting Insurance and they will file insurance as well. So my MC should be active in few days after they have my insurance, cause 21 days from the day I got DOT letter is on February 25.

    DO I have to do IFTA immediately before my MC is ready?
    Also state highway taxes, it is $150 I guess
    Also you say
    • UCR $75
    I never paid anything for UCR. Are you sure there is fee for it?
     
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  8. trucko

    trucko Medium Load Member

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    OK I filed UCR already. now know what it means

    thanks
     
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  9. trucko

    trucko Medium Load Member

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    Hi can you tell me where to register for IFTA?

    When I registered for my MC lots of solicitors called me offering services. One lectured me what should I do to comply, he mentioned $150 Highway Use Tax. Is it same as HUT and I should file for each state separate form? I am going to haul cars only in 5-6 states max and my loaded gross weight won't exceed 45 000. So what is the right way to file and register for it?

    I guess I should register on IRP website too?
     
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  10. Pepper24

    Pepper24 Road Train Member

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    What does a rough draft of a business plan consist of for a one truck O/O?Pick up load, drive truck,deliver load repeat again.seriosly what do you put in a business plan for a one truck O/O its seems some on here tell people that what you need to do but when I've ask what are putting down never a response back.
     
  11. trucko

    trucko Medium Load Member

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    Why do you need business plan for 1 truck? Just ledger of all start up expenses if you need it to have an idea about money to pour in
     
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