Who do u think is really killing the rates

Swift and JBH are two of the best run megas I believe. I know JB Hunt has extremely high rates, a solid brokerage department, and all the intermodal they can eat.

I know for a fact that CR England is doing drop and hook meat loads for way less than 2.00 a mile.

 

Sure there are other factors, not the least of which being decreased industrial activity which may be attributed to Obamacare. But there's that government meddling again which, if you recall is what I said was responsible for low rates in the first place.

I bet here in Canada fully 30% of the truck drivers are of middle eastern descent and most of those are here on a temporary work permit issued to mega carriers by the government because the carrier says there is a driver shortage. You and I and everyone else know there is no driver shortage...only a shortage of slaves. The gov't is meddling with supply and demand. You calling it whining doesn't make it so.

 

It flattens driver wages somewhat. Legal immigrants won't work for peanuts though. They are usually go getting people. I have a hard time with the idea that I'm supposed to be unhappy that our country is importing honest to goodness tax payers. Which truck drivers are.

Immigration is a big problem for wages in fields where they hire a lot of illegals. It's a blight in agriculture and construction for sure. Illegal immigrants can be abused by their employers in all sorts of ways with very little recourse. That's what you don't want to be competing against. You best believe that if I can hire Bryan, who will sue me a few days after he reports me to the AG's office if I don't pay him, and Hector who I can basically decide if I want to pay or not I'm supposed to pick Bryan. Oh and Bryan costs 30% more than Hector. Not a chance I'm hiring that guy!

That logic is super toxic and creates all sorts of problems obviously. If labor comes here it has to have the same rights as domestic labor or it's really bad. This is the real problem more than simply immigration.

 

I don't know what the TFW's get paid, but you can bet it's less than domestic labor or the carrier wouldn't go through the hassle of getting the work permits and putting them through a CDL mill.

 

True that every country needs better workers of all stripes BUT the question becomes what do you do with the ones that are still here? For every immigrant that comes in to work for less money (who by the way serves no other purpose than to increase the employer's bottom line), there is a welfare case that needs to be supported. Who's going to do that? You and me that's who. So what this really comes down to is the tax payer is subsidizing the trucking companies' foreign worker payroll. What a brilliant system.

I say for every immigrant that comes in we send a welfare case back the other way. Faced with that prospect, I wonder how the welfare case looks at truckin then.

 

Mass immigration is not compatible with the welfare state. Employers gain low wage workers but working class whose wages are under assault are forced to pay for the welfare state even as there wages decline

 

Don't forget, they fire up authorities every day and run for significantly less than established carriers. They love to play the go to California for next to nothing and pray they get something decent on the way home. When they eventually can't fix their equipment or screw up their authority they fire up another new one and round and round she goes. I have given up on Ontario to California seeing as "I always get it covered for $3000 (cdn)" ok ... so where is Habib this week? Can't fix truck? Oh no ....

 

Yep I've been noticing names on trailers and truck doors in Arabic lately. Even had a Canadian born Punjabi truck driver tell me a couple years ago that "....in a few years we will be running this country and you Canadians are too stupid to see it." I couldn't argue. He was right.

 

In every country but the US every price is up for negotiations and these European drivers are better nogotiators then a lot of us US drivers.

I was in Memphis a couple weeks ago. Called on a load Memphis to San Antonio (shingles) 709 miles.

Broker said $1050 ($1.50 mile). Call my company to see if we could go direct. Turns into $1400 linehaul $200 fuel surcharge.

The problem with rates is there is a lot more brokers better at negotiating then there is truckers that negotiate.

 

This is a perfect example of a broker screwing his customer. Can any of you picture a carrier that is willing to run a load for 1050 in a market that is probably paying at LEAST 1300 but most likely 1400? I bet there are loads posted picking up in similar places going to similar places for 200+ dollars more than his. Literally the only people who are going to call him are the people who have already been declined for the better freight. In my mind he's stealing from the customer.

If the customer was paying 1200 and expected the broker to find cheap trucks and didn't care when the loads went that would be completely fine.

Do you guys see the logic behind this ethically?