Tractor First, Right?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by HandLogger, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. DDlighttruck

    DDlighttruck Road Train Member

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    What's the old saying.....
    "Two can starve just as cheap as one can"?
     
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  3. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    It's sad to say, but two guys living free in the cab of a truck earning Canadian dollars might well be a improvement vs what they came from. And the money they send home might be a princely some after applying the currency exchange. Plus after a while, you have a chance at citizenship then you can move your family over.
     
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  4. nate980

    nate980 Road Train Member

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    Well I can only tell you a little bit since I wasn't involved in the ordering process....

    2014 kenworth
    525 cummins isx 1850tq
    18spd eaton
    4:30 gears in the rear
    24.5 rubber
    46k rearends
    Full lockups
    New way suspension
    14k front end with skinny tires so it's still only good for 12K.
    No idea on frame thickness or anything like that.

    So far it's been a very good truck and I've never had any serious issues. Mostly runs the highway but isn't afraid of the bush.
     
  5. HandLogger

    HandLogger Light Load Member

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    I've admired your tractor for quite a while now, @nate980 , so thanks for the spec's.

    If anyone would care to add it to this thread, please give me some idea of what distinguishes a California tractor from those being sold in other parts of the country. Although I suspect that it has a lot to do with emissions, I honestly have no idea of which model years are affected and, more importantly, what type of equipment or modifications they require on the left coast.

    As always, thanks for your valuable time...
     
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  6. Razororange

    Razororange Road Train Member

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    I'll add my specs for you to give an idea of another East/West Coast legal truck. It's a heavy tandem instead of having a pusher. Keeps my tare weight down for doing legal weight loads. Though it's probably newer than what you are looking for. It is the only truck in our fleet that is 100% California legal for emissions.

    2016 KW T880
    600/1850 Cummins ISX15
    Allison 4700RDS 7Sp Auto
    20K Steer W/ 425/65R22.5 Bridgestone M860A
    46K Drives W/ 11R24.5 Bridgestone M726EL
    KW AG460 8 bag suspension
    4.10 Rears with full lockers
    262" wheel base
    60" drive spacing
    10 3/4" x 3/8" Single Frame
    Holland FWH 2570 Fifth Wheel

    This truck was built with running up to 220K out to the west coast in mind.

    We don't going that way very often but my company has run into issues in the past with running our 4 axle tractor out there because of his axle spacings. I think that we can only get somewhere around 51K on the drives of that truck with the pusher down. I don't have the chart in front of me to be sure though. That truck also only has a 14K steer axle. Axle spacing on that truck is 4'6" for all three. He also can't go out there because the switch for his pusher is in the cab not outside.

    With my truck setup the way it is with the wider drive spacing I can run close to the same if not more weight. I don't know for sure since I've only looked at the CA load charts a couple times when I was planning to go out there a few weeks ago.
     
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  7. HandLogger

    HandLogger Light Load Member

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    Thanks for adding your spec's to the thread, @Razororange . Although it's probably somewhere in this thread by now, I don't recall what the term "pusher" means. Please clue me in.
     
  8. Razororange

    Razororange Road Train Member

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    Lift axle in front of the drives.

    Tag axle would be behind the drives.

    In California the controls for lifting and lowering the axle as well as the pressure regulator can't be accessible by the driver from inside. Our 4 axle has the switch on the dash from the factory so it isn't legal there.
     
  9. HandLogger

    HandLogger Light Load Member

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    Does the state of California require the addition of special emissions equipment, above and beyond what the manufacturers are forced to include in their designs, @Razororange ?

    For instance, an owner-operator (O-O) who runs and older tractor, for some reason, decides to become CA compliant. Would that O-O be forced to install additional smog equipment to be in compliance?

    I've seen logging equipment that's spec'd as being CARB compliant or non-CARB complaint. As you may already know, CARB stands for California Air Resources Board; hence, my questions about a diesel powered machine like a semi tractor. Where I'm presently located, diesel trucks (of any kind) are harshly judged, so I can only imagine what the huggers in places like San Francisco are being programmed to think.
     
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  10. DDlighttruck

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    When you say load chart is that the same thing as the bridge laws found in the atlas?
    Or is there a different one located in the OSOW book?
     
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  11. Razororange

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