Truck Uber & Amazon

Right just like with the airlines. Those planes fly themselves, but you still have 2 pilots to take control and monitor the systems. 80 thousand pounds is always goin to need a human behind it for safety and to act as a backup. Computers fail too much.

 

But will it still be fun when you are no longer "in control"? I would be curious to see what that pay would look like too... I am sure what Pilots made 40 years ago went further then it does today (inflation of course).

 

But how would they be brokers if the freight they are moving is owned in-house? Doesnt that mean just getting rid of a middle man and giving smaller carrier's a chance?

 

I would think so. My boss is a broker. He goes home everyday at 2pm. He pays me 45cpm loaded tank 32 empty. When i go to the Port of Oakland its worse 37 loaded, 26 empty.

 

Right. So if Amazon were to follow through with this, in my opinion, it would not only remove the broker, but remove the need to have a "boss." Or another party taking a cut for some unknown reason. It would connect the freight directly to the truck.

 

How is that helping the trucks out exactly? Have you see their contract that was posted here on the forum that included all the direct rates they were paying carriers? It was terrible, lots of $1.25 freight. I'm on an email list from a brokerage sending out daily Amazon loads and their rates are usually double that, sometimes less sometimes more. Middlemen are not the problem with rates.

Plus Amazon is branching out into other freight that does not originate from or deliver to any of their distribution centers. They are wanting to get into brokering in a hugr kind of way. Got a call the other day ago from some lady who asked me if I wanted to set up with them to run this random spot freight. I told her not interested.

 

How are middlemen not the problem here? 3PL's, Factoring Companies, Load Boards, Other trucking companies double brokering someone else's freight, Dispatchers/Load Planners; all these players significantly influence your end RPM through slicing and dicing the profit. Furthermore the companies with freight to move utilize brokers to dump the market. Ever heard of an RFP? Almost all vendors send one of these out to go fishing for rates.

 

Middlemen arent your problem. The invisible hand of the market is what you're complaining about.

 

This invisible hand right?

C.H. Robinson

Revenue: 12/31/2016 12/31/2015 12/31/2014
Total Revenue (1000's): $13,144,413 $13,476,084 $13,470,067
Cost of Revenue: $10,866,885 $11,207,604 $11,462,415
Gross Profit: $2,277,528 $2,268,480 $2,007,652

Keep telling yourself that its just a demand/supply issue.

 

I get it. You're one of these disgruntled types that cant make any money working with brokers because you dont know how. And its the brokers fault. And if brokers only took 5% or were eliminated altogether life would be much easier for you booking loads?

I get excellent rates from CHR they're one of the better brokers I work with. What is your problem with those numbers? CHR has a big reach and does a lot more than just broker freight.