TSA "No Security Threat Letter" for HazMat

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by MountainTrucker, Oct 2, 2008.

  1. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    I got my CDL first- took the Haz test at that time.

    Finally got the funds together to do the BI, and went in to get fingerprinted.

    8 days later, I had a letter from TSA

    I went down to DMV and they didn't even ask to see my letter. Yup, electronic delivery. Got my photo updated and walked out with my new, updated, CDL

    Sometimes,it pays to live in Colorado
     
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  3. Peepaw

    Peepaw Light Load Member

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    Same here in Ga. Got my letter in about 9 days, three days later I got my hazmat without having my letter in hand.
     
  4. miseryonwheels

    miseryonwheels Bobtail Member

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    You're saying the letter is good and your clearance is good for 5 years? I just want to be clear, you're saying they only require background check every 5 years?

    I just found my security assessment letter which is dated march 08, so I wanted to be sure. I thought I had read it was only good 6 months.
     
  5. MGASSEL

    MGASSEL Road Train Member

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    Here they reccomend to do the background 30 days prior to renewal every 4 years and you have to do it ant each renewal or they will take your hazmat off the license.
     
  6. miseryonwheels

    miseryonwheels Bobtail Member

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    mines for TWIC, not hazmat. but i understand what you are saying. But they are good for at least 4 years then? where did I get the crazy idea they were only good for 6 months if you took no action with them?
     
  7. Tobin

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    When I put in my application for the hazmat endorsement they asked me where I was born. I told them Landstuhl, Germany and that my father was stationed over there in the US Army along with my mother. I told them my my folks were both US citizens. Everything sounded fine so I went and got my fingerprinting done for the background check.

    About two weeks later I get a letter form the TSA in the mail saying that they have come to the conclusion that I am in the country illegally because they cannot find any immigration papers on me. They came to that determination because they saw that I was born in Germany and either the stupid person taking the application hadn't put down the reason for that or the stuipid person going over the application didn't undersdtand that I was born to US citizens.

    So I decide to appeal the decision, which you can do as long as it's within 60 days of the disapproval letter. I get every form of identification together that I have and make notarized copies of it. I sent them a copy of my driver's license, my social security card, my birth certificate, and the forms showing that I am a citizen of the US born abroad to US citizens. I send all of that to them via certified mail. I got the notice that somebody from the TSA signed for the package about a week later. Then all I could do was wait.

    About a month and a half later I get a letter from the TSA stating that they went over the information I sent them, plus other documentation and they determined that I am not a security threat. The whole process took a little over 2 months and I got my CDL with hazmat endorsement with only 8 days to spare before my license expired. I was very fortunate to get it in time because I can't do my job legally without that endorsement.

    They told me here in Ohio that I can renew my license up to 3 months before it expires. I'm assuming that's a similar rule for all the states. Don't drag your feet on this, drivers. Get that process rolling as soon as you can legally do so.
     
  8. MountainTrucker

    MountainTrucker Bobtail Member

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    I'll pass along some of the stuff I learned so far from the Maryland MVA....

    There is a sixty day limit is to protest a rejection or mis-information collected by the TSA.

    In Maryland, you must obtain the Hazmat endorsement within 6 months of the arrival of the TSA approval, or start over. You are not allowed to take the knowledge test until you have a hard copy of the TSA approval in hand.

    The TSA approves an individual for 5 years, however Maryland in their usual anal interpertation of the rules requires dirvers to retest and renew the HM endorsement every 2 years. I'm not sure if you need to get a new TSA letter or not, and the DMV's poorly trained supervisors are not sure either!.

    TWIC uses the same TSA approval, and is good for 5 years. Here if you need to go into the Port of Baltimore to transport fuel for example, you need both Hazmat and TWIC.

    I always thought California had the most power abusive MVA in the country, but it looks as if Maryland is winning the contest. Why the hell I ever left Wyoming is beyond me.

    -bob
     
  9. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    ouch, that's a bite. In Colorado, you can take the test whenever. You just can't get the endorsement until you have the letter (or, more accurately, THEY have the letter)

    That needs to be determined ASAP, I'd say. I'd probably start the renewal process at .oh.. about month 13.

    now that is a good question. Not just because of the DMV, either. Why anybody would want to live in that ant-hill east of the Mississippi is beyond me :)
     
  10. CrotchRocket

    CrotchRocket Bobtail Member

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    Took me 3 weeks 4 days for my HazMat endorsement license to come in the mail...
     
  11. PaymentPlan

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    just got mine took 2 1/2 weeks:biggrin_25525:
     
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