Is there anyone who'll hire me with three accidents on my record that are a year old?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Jonathan Worsley, Apr 30, 2017.

  1. omg-downshift!

    omg-downshift! Light Load Member

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    Of course, your going to drive again, stop and breath. I didn't read all the posts, cause well I just didnt. But I get your damage. If I could offer some advice, when asked my cdl instructer (who is an old old man, since Chuck Norris was driving) drive the road, otr. Learn it. Why go into the most difficult situation with no experience? And he was right, ah well blah blah, but.. get on the road with us, learn and move on.
     
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  3. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    After many years of failures, mistakes and generally just poor judgment I have formulated a flow chart that I keep in the cab.
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  4. FireLotus

    FireLotus Light Load Member

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    Jonathan this is a really important post for you to really read and ponder...

    Everyone of us has made mistakes... and many of us will make more mistakes... It is whether we can learn from those mistakes, make a change to avoid making the same mistake.

    I took a call from a driver and it was like hitting the driver recruiter jackpot.. 4 years 7 months experience, clean MVR, been driving with his 1st company for the whole time.. I went about the call the same way I did every call and started asking qualifying questions and noting his answers... then I hear some background noise from his end.. then he said "Oh crap... I gotta call you back!" and he hung up... there I was at my desk like Rose from the Titanic... "come back... come baaack..." because I never got his full name and a call back number... To this day when I think of that call I hear the theme song from the Titanic in my head... That was not the first time I started in with the qualifying questions with out getting at least a name and call back number if not their full name, number, city and state... it was that last call I ever did that on... I changed my entire way of handling incoming calls because of my mistake and letting a great candidate hang up and me having no way of getting ahold of him.. I just had to wait and hope he really did call me back... fortunately for me he did.. but, the feeling of when he hung up and the two days kicking myself before he called back was all the lesson I needed.

    So, your turn... what was your mistakes, what did you learn and what are you going to do differently?
     
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  5. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    That's good lol
     
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  6. FireLotus

    FireLotus Light Load Member

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    You know, I do recruiting and staffing for other industries.. and most all other industries have assessment tests that potential candidates takes to see if they are suited for the job.
    Assessment tests have come along way, many of them are more like games and actually fun to do. like the problem solving ones, you do mind puzzles and play Tetris like games. There are also ones where you look at a picture, like an ocean scene and choose one of four words.. when I look at this picture I think of... vacation, pretty, powerful, indifferent
    Anyway the test are fun.. and you don't have to do it all in one sitting like before.. you can do some one day, and some more the next.

    When they are finished I get an email and a very detailed report, as they are not pass or fail anymore, and they ##### all sorts of things, from a candidates problem solving skills, how they would adapt do working nights, working alone even being away from home. The test are also industry and job specific...

    They certainly could give new drivers an assessment test that would indicate their likelihood of being able to preform, handle the responsibilities and the solitude and independence required to be a truck driver. They already have the assessment tests to do so,

    CDL schools or carriers that hire and train new drivers don't use them.

    I find it annoying, they will put inward facing cameras in their trucks, all sorts of other gadgets like lane assist and stuff which all costs more than simply giving a new driver an assessment test that will give them detailed information that would be useful to know.
     
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  7. Jonathan Worsley

    Jonathan Worsley Light Load Member

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    Well, I have a few comments. First of all, I hate hearing the phrase, "trucking might not be for you." I HAS to be for me. Never in ANY other job I've had have I felt like what I did actually MEANT something. It actually felt like I had a purpose. There are too many other things I love about driving trucks and too many things I hate about working at a warehouse for it NOT to be for me. There were so many things I could afford to do that you just can't do with a warehouse paycheck. I'll give you two examples: When I was still out with a trainer, he took a week-long vacation for Christmas. He lived in Florida. Coincidentally, I always wanted to go to Florida. Specifically because I wanted to visit the St. Augustine Lighthouse and the Ponce de Leon Inlet Lighthouse (I'm a fan of lighthouses). Luckily, he happened to live in Jacksonville, Fl. He dropped me off at a hotel in that city and I was able to call an UBER to take me to St. Augustine. I still remember how the conversation went when my trainer returned to pick me up.
    Trainer: What'd you do?
    Me: I went to the St. Augustine Lighthouse
    Trainer: How the heck you get out there?
    Me: UBER...
    There's no way I'd ever be able to afford such a trip if I stayed at my old job. Plane tickets, hotel stays... It was just a luxury that was out of my reach.
    Weeks after I finished training, I went to the 30th Street Station in Philadelphia (I'm also a fan of trains). The reason why I was there was I finally had enough money to ride the Acela Express, which is a high-speed luxury train that runs between Boston and Washington, D.C. I couldn't afford to ride it the entire distance, but I could afford a trip from New York to Philadelphia. So I took the Northeast Regional to New York, took the subway to the World Trade Center, then went to the New York Transit Museum, then I went back to Penn Station and rode the Acela Express back to Philadelphia.
    Everything I just mentioned are out so far out of reach, I can only dream of them when I work at a warehouse, and unless there are other jobs that make this possible, I'm convinced truck driving IS for me, and cannot be convinced otherwise.
    Now I am willing to learn from my mistakes, the biggest of which seemed to be trusting others, or rather, trusting the wrong people. If I hadn't trusted my fleet manager, I wouldn't 've tried to park in Easton as I didn't think it was a good idea. If I hadn't trusted those people trying to talk me into those spaces, I wouldn't 've hit those stores, etc.
    Oh, and as far as complaining about the 10 hour shifts, that's not the main issue I have. When I was training, I usually drove for between 10 and a half hours to ten hours, fifty minutes. I don't care how long my hours are as long as they aren't spent in a dusty building doing meaningless tasks. Also, thanks for the posts. I am learning a lot from this.
     
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  8. TROOPER to TRUCKER

    TROOPER to TRUCKER Anything Is Possible

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    To add to this Jon you may want to change your username.
     
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  9. DTP

    DTP Road Train Member

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    Same here, I don't trust anyone. If I screw up, that's on me and I can accept it and live with it. If someone else screws me up, that's a problem. I don't need the help these days but when I was a newer driver, I'd at times have people try and help me and I'd decline. If it took me 15 minutes and getting out 10 times to look, so be it. I'll either get it or won't but if anyone is gonna get me in trouble it's gonna be ME and not someone else...
     
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  10. miss elvee

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    Then, you need a serious plan. It's time to hike up your pro driver manties and get to work.

    1. If you hit stuff you hurt YOUR career. Not your DMs.
    A. Don't hit stuff. Use GOAL. Back slowly. Use a flashlight. Get a reference point. Use GOAL again. Circle around to sight side. Don't let ANYONE or ANYTHING rush you.
    B. Don't set yourself up to fail. If you see it's a bad situation, you're driving that truck. Call it in. Use Google satellite. Plan your route ahead of time. If all else fails, pull over and hit your flashers. Go inside. Ask at the dock. Walk it out. Figure it out first. Then drive it.
    C. Own your mistakes. We all hit ####. It happens. But you're driving. If you hadn't driven that strike would not have happened. Own it and learn more from it then just pointing the finger at someone else. Then move on.

    2. Know the law about what companies can and can't force or coerce you into doing legally and practically.
    A. Like that DM telling you to park somewhere you and your wagon won't fit. I'd have stopped right then, thrown my flashers on and told them to find me another place or it was coming back to the yard.
    B. Learn who to talk to to get out of a bad situation. Like, in your case, safety. They would have pulled you from that account like a bad tooth.
    C. Learn your DOT and HOS. If it's broke, it don't roll. If you don't have the hours, it don't roll. If they complain, get it in writing on the Qualcomm and call safety. Odds are they won't put it in writing customer that will get them fired, not you.

    3. Be a pro.
    A. If it can be done, learn how. If you screw it up, own it, learn something and try again. Repeat until you can do it, too.
    B. Don't whine. Nose to the grindstone gets it done. Crying don't.
    C. Safety isn't a few dumb catch phrases. It's a way of driving, backing and behaving that keeps you, the public and the inanimate objects of the world in one piece. Learn it. Live it. Be it. Every day. Even when you're tired or its raining or dark or whatever other bs reason you can come up with.

    Everyone's a driver. Every little four wheeler. (Frankly, my daughter scares the bejeebees out of me) Only pros drive class 8. Only the very best get to make a full career of it.

    You wanna be out here for the long haul? Earn it. Be professional enough to say no, to own your mistakes, to learn every single day. Start today, right now.

    You're going to have to claw your way back up with a crappy paying second chance company because of the things you've done. Paying your dues there will mean nothing if you learned nothing from your past mistakes than "I shouldn't have listened to so and so." You won't last long enough to get out of there and into a decent paying company.

    Best of luck, driver. You got the best advice I can give you, now get after it. I'll see you on the road.
     
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  11. FireLotus

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    Jon, first, thank you for responding dialog is good...
    Second, I am glad that you got to have those experience you talked about, they clearly were important to you and something you have wanted to do and enjoyed the opportunity and experience to do them.
    That is great, I too am a fan of travel as well as enjoying life and doing things we enjoy.

    However, the reasons you gave for why trucking is for you don't actually have anything.. or very little to do with trucking.. and trucking doesn't always present that kind of opportunity... I mean, you may not always have the time to uber off somewhere for site seeing... also, sometime you can be very close to somewhere you would love to visit, but be under a loaded trailer that you have to stay with.. you don't want your trailer broken into while you are off site seeing..
    Now it is true that you are not always stuck in your truck and times when you have the time and resources to go do some site seeing...

    Just curious, but why a truck driver and not a train engineer?

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