Sorry if this has been already posted elsewhere but I've been searching for awhile about information about this. I've heard that California does not allow trucks in the state that is more than 10-12 years old. Anyone know anything of this? I have an older Pete that is sweet and would like to run it in CA but heard about this and it has me wondering.
Thanks!
California Regs
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by 88Pete, Oct 27, 2008.
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I live in cali and have friends running 359's and w900A's and im picking up a 78' international cabover(uncle bought new)and is currntly reg in cali.
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I believe that's gonna come into play after the 2010 or whatever year it is regs kick in. Just Google CARB (Cal Air Resources Board) or CA DMV and you shold be able to find info on it.
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check with "Guy's Lady",she is really up on all these proposed laws in CA
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There's two different things going on in California right now both separate and by different agencies.First,The LA Harbor commission has insituted "The Clean Trucks Program".This rulemaking is in effect this month but is a progressive ban and only for the Ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles.
1.Ban pre 1989 trucks from the ports on 10/1/08
2.Ban 1989-1993 on 1/1/10
3.Ban unretrofitted 1994-2003 on 1/1/10
4.Ban pre 2007 trucks by 1/1/12.(This last one has now been reworded after public outcry to read,Ban pre 2007 trucks that don't meet 2007 emission standards.
The proposed state law covering all of California has not taken effect.This law is being considered by the California DEP along with the California Air Resources Board.The next hearing on this proposal will be on 12/11/08.Nothing is written in stone right now on this law.It seems to me that this law,if passed,will be based on emmissions and not on the age of the truck.However,if you do the math,an older tractor won't pass the stricter emmission standard without an expensive retrofit.So if you can't afford the retrofit I guess your old truck can't run in California.Will see what happens in December. -
I really appreciate this info. I have a couple others right now that run in the state and was thinking it would be good to run my oplder one in there some as well. I guess when it comes to it, whatever the new law becomes, it will depend on the cost vs the benefit of it all.
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Assuming your theory is true, then why are most of the trucks at the ports of LA/Long Beach more than 20-years old?
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Not for long. Back in Nov of 06 they passed a requirement that is going to phase out "Dirty" trucks in the next five years. So they have three years left. They had to come up with a plan that would reduce their air pollution in order to continue any further construction at the ports. So they have targeted the old trucks first because it was easy for them. The old trucks can still run the ports but they will have to retrofit their engines for the new generation clean burning requirements. You can find out all the information by search for San Pedro Ports Clean Air Action Plan or (CAAP).
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GASHAULER: This is true however I anticipate the rule to be overturned in the courts. The ATA has filed an appeal through the federal courts on behalf of the vehicle owners and trucking companies against the ports which is as we speak is working its' way through the system. In addition, the U.S. Department of Justice has filed an Amicus Brief with the Courts supporting the complaint the ATA filed.
In addition, the ports also want to eliminate the independent owner operators through their ruling by requiring all trucks & drivers to be employees of the motor carrier whose door signs are on the truck. This essentially makes the ports a closed shop when the laws of CA prohibit this in intrastate commerce.
In my opinion the ports are merely attempting to look good in front of the CA Air Quality Board because even the Board does not require what the ports have done.
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