The difference between commission and hourly pay

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  1. HL Drvr

    HL Drvr Light Load Member

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    When drivers want to be paid for "off-duty" time, or to scale, or to get unloaded, or loaded...then guess what happens?

    The freight goes up, prices consumers pay will go up, and more people will be laid off.

    This is a bell curve situation. The economy, and prices people pay can only handle so much.

    For example:

    Do we all want fuel haulers to get paid for EVERYTHING they do? 34 hr restart? 10 hr break?

    Well, somebody gas to pay for that....and, in the end it will be the consumers.

    So, instead of 2.25/gallon, you could see 4.50/gallon in gas.

    Instead of gallon of milk being 2.00, you will probably see it go up to $3-$4/gallon.

    Simple economics in play. The more the freight costs...the more the consumers will pay.

    Or, there will just be more unemployed workers looking for jobs that just don't exist.

    It's like the "Fight for 15" idiots don't understand.
     
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  3. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    Um, he was paid by the mile, not on a commission, and depending on the situation, being paid by commission or percentage of load, you'll make more money that being paid by the hour.
     
  4. 201

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    I think we're dealing with regional dialects here. Commission and % are the same thing, except commission is usually referred to in sales, where an employee gets a sum of money, either a % or fixed amount for a sale, or in our case, a load hauled.
     
  5. rearview

    rearview Medium Load Member

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    trying to understand how a driver making an extra hundred bucks on a load increases the price to the consumer so much. a standard fuel load is around 9000 gallons of gas valued at $20,000 at $2.25 per gsllon.

    if a tanker driver is making $200 a day, his wages are 1 percent if he delivers only 1 load and .5 percent on 2 loads.

    9 lb milk containers, minus packing dunnage, say 39000 actual load weight is about 4333 containers. An extra $100 to the driver comes no where near the the 4 grand price increase.

    The milk driver at $200 a day is 2.4 percent of the $8666 versus 1.2 percent at $100 a load.

    There is no way the catastrophic scenario you see is possible in my view
     
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  6. rcelmo

    rcelmo Medium Load Member

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    So the working class are expected to starve to death?
    At some point the workers have to make enough too live
    off of. $15 is less than a living wage in many areas of the
    country, and not unreasonable at all.
     
  7. Jazz1

    Jazz1 Road Train Member

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    IMG_0498.JPG I would never work flat rate mileage only. That is a guarantee company will have you fingerprinting plenty of freight.
    I hauled explosives exclusively for 10 years and other than at factory every box/bag was fingerprinted. Some days I might unload and reload the trailer twice on my own
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  8. HL Drvr

    HL Drvr Light Load Member

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    Yep, you're right.

    ONE SINGLE driver may not, but, then, multiply that by EVERY SINGLE milk company, and EVERY SINGLE Milk driver.

    We aren't only talking about Milk Drivers, but, EVERY single driver for any kind of freight.

    They want to be paid for a 10 hr break? A 34 Hr restart?

    Add all that up, and then get back to me.
     
  9. HL Drvr

    HL Drvr Light Load Member

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    So, people want a minimum wage of 15/hr? And, that's the "working class"?

    Starve to death?

    Listen...its simple economics. Take a class on it.

    What the company pays to the employee, gets passed on to the consumer.

    Would you REALLY expect the freight charges to go up (which is what would happen if companies paid for EVERYTHING a driver does)...and, it NOT to get passed on to the consumer in higher Milk, bread, etc...prices?

    Think about it, and use your dadgum brain!!!

    So, yes, these employees get paid a "livable wage of 15/hr"...but when all that extra driver pay is passed on to the consumer, then is that "livable wage" so livable now???

    NO....because EVERYTHING will go up in price.
     
  10. rcelmo

    rcelmo Medium Load Member

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    Think about it......if the workers worked for free, think how
    much the companies would save......think how much those
    savings could be passed down to the workers......why don't you
    take an economics class and use your dadgum brain?

    According to you the price on EVERYTHING will go down.
     
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