Bare min "on-duty" time and Legal?

My example is elogs...
20-30 minutes pre trip, get paper work, and hook up trailer (and inspect)
2hr, 18 minute drive to shipper
4-6 minutes on duty to give them paperwork and dock.
15-60 minutes off duty while they are loading
7-10 minute on duty to go get paperwork and close doors and send paperwork in to company.
2 hour, 5 minute drive to receiver
30-90 minutes on duty. I tend to stay on duty at the receiver, but if I cared I could go off duty part of the time.
15 minute drive to yard
15 minute on-duty to drop trailer, dvir, and fuel.
Log out and go home.

 

I agree with this 100% Ive only been driving for 2 years but Ive had several inspections. i havent gotten a ticket nor a bad inspection. I do believe its the nest way to go. Form great habits in the beginning and you wont have any issues. The people that are in for a huge Wake Up Call will be the people currently on paper logs and the people trying to Outwit the ELD's. These are the people that will have trouble adapting. 1) Loss of Revenue (because they cant run hot. 2) They wont be able to manipulate their logs.
I predict alot of drivers & companies incurring fines and potentially ending alot of people careers. Do it right 1st and you wont be surprised later...

 

so is mine

 

Two minor points of order...

Per the FMCSA, you do not need to round up. Anything less than 15 minutes can be "flagged".

Guidance for § 395.8: Driver's record of duty status.

Question 1: How should a change of duty status for a short period of time be shown on the driver’s record of duty status?

Guidance: Short periods of time (less than 15 minutes) may be identified by drawing a line from the appropriate on-duty (not driving) or driving line to the remarks section and entering the amount of time, such as “6 minutes,” and the geographic location of the duty status change.

Regulations Section​

Since being "retested" at any time, and in that manner, is not a requirement to maintain your CDL, I would politely tell anyone who made such a request to pound sand. Whatever pretrip I did on THAT day at THAT time took THAT long (whatever is in my logs). Anyone who succumbs to such a request doesn't understand their rights, nor how they can be creating a problem for themselves. Just say no.

 

You're perfectly free to say no. No DOT officer is going to write you a citation - probably.

The issue comes when there is some kind of serious incident that puts you behind the defense table and using the phrase "your honor" a lot. If the prosecution alleges that it is impossible to do what you say you've done in the time you've logged, you may need to disprove it. If the glove don't fit you must acquit. If the prosecution can prove you've "falsified your logs" you'll be branded a liar and a cheat. The jury will probably disregard anything you say after that.

Or in a less serious arena - your company "safety salamander" takes issue with your logs and says "If you can show me that you can do it in that time fine, otherwise you're fired". As an experienced driver you'll tell "safety salamander" to go play with seagulls and find a new job. A new driver may not have that luxury. Being fired from your first job for "log falsification" leaves you asking Chinaman for job leads.

 

falsification of logs is what they call it if your logs are not accurate.
Inspection regulations differ in various states, countries and provinces.
the DOT does not require a written inspection and only stipulates the driver must be satisfied the vehicle is in good working condition. In Canada, the MOT requires written inspection. Doing a full thorough inspection would take 30-35 minutes. But most MOT officers are satisfied with a 15 minute On Duty status recorded once every 24 hours with a remark that says "Pre-Trip" on the log.
Falsificaton of logs is easy to get caught for. Some officers are hawks, others are not.
why gamble.

 

I would NEVER drive a CMV under these circumstances, however a driver can be driving with the satisfaction the truck is safe and never have done the inspection. How? Another inspected it and says you are good to go. The FMCSA is never going to say a driver MUST actually inspect pre or post trip. Just not going to happen. This is almost always going to be covered by carrier policy. THAT is what a driver needs to be doing!

 

Company policy and legal requirements are two different things.
I think the question was about legal minimum requirements. And yes, I agree, nothing wrong with going above and beyond the minimum requirements to make the roads safer for everyone.

 

I know that. However I was seeing word associations leading up to the comment the FMCSA mandates these inspections. This is NOT true. The FMCSA only requires the driver be satisfied the CMV is safe. The doing so is 100% up to the carrier and their policy. I have seen drivers leave a terminal and never once look at their truck, just go by a mechanic say its OK, or not look at a trailer on a repower and just take the other drivers word for it, totally legal, just stupid in my opinion!

 

Do any individual American states require a dailywritten vehicle inspection?