"FORCED to break-the-law!---"Elogs and the Catch 22???"

It'll record the movement, but it doesn't lock the status on the log until it's been continuous for 5 minutes ... think of it like a flag on paper logs. 5 minutes is the new 15 minutes.

Let me also add ... any change in duty status before 5 minutes of the previous change in status will log that second status change back to start of the first status change. ie ... go off duty then log on duty at the 4 minute mark, at 5 minutes it will lock that in as 5 minutes on duty but you can edit that. ... But go off duty for 4 minutes, put in gear and wait for 5 minute mark to take off and it will lock the entire 5 minutes as drive time - because you went in gear before the 5 minutes were up .,. and you can drive all over a shipper, as long as you don't exceed 17 mph, don't go into 5th gear and or go more than 1/4 mile you'll never go on the drive line ... but hit one of those criteria and you revert to the drive line to the time you first went into gear.

 

It really doesn't "suspend" the 14, the 8 will only extend the 14.

But it they were to allow a myriad of other break combinations, figuring out where the "14" is will be impossible which is why I think they'll have to do away with it and back to something similar to what we had before the 14 came into play

 

The thing is with elogs it gets you down to the minute, where as paper you have to log 15. Stop and pee 7.5 minutes which way do you take it? On paper you had to decide. Elogs 7.5 minutes is 7.5 minutes. You can actually gain time, if you can play the system.

 

E- logs and pulling a reefer.
Pure hell.

This is exactly why I got away from that never ending
Nightmare. This could happen 3 or 4 times a week
Pulling a reefer.

The driver has covered for these customers for so
Long without compensation or any accountability
On the customers part to load or unload the truck
At the appt time that they themselves set, that the
Customer doesn't care one bit.

You should have never left there property.
They ate all your time up, screw them.
Park in the dock,
Block up the parking lot,
Holler,scream, do something.
Make them call the cops.

5 more months till the rest of these outlaw truckers
Are put in line or put out of business, then there's gonna
Be some real screaming matches and angry drivers
When some customer loads you 7 hours after the appt
Time,then your 14 hour clock has run out.

Then they tell you to get out you can't park here.
Now what are you gonna do !!

 

Actually, Sauder Village in Ohio has showers for drivers. As far as food goes I can t remember. I ve been to a few places that lets us use their driver s showers and had a cafeteria on sight

 

Then be forced to go park with thirty minutes on your clock after having say such said 7 hours. Once you get parked, you must then restart your 10hour break all over again.

Fun, right?

 

Very simple.

Two thoughts actually.

Dispatcher says go. if you aint got hours you say "No" and explain specifically why AND also remind that dispatcher he should already have your recap in front of him knowing #### well what he is asking you to do. Which you WONT.

Second thought.

When your time is UP, try to be parked two hours prior. Or even earlier. Even if it is noon today and you got three hours to go. Better to have a bird in hand and parked rather than two in the bush and no options left. And time is still up.

Park it. two or three hours prior to expiry of your driving time.

Get in touch with dispatcher after you review your new recap situation next 8 days and understand what your NEXT LEGAL ETA will be at the customer. Get a new appt for that time or later. Or else have a company send a team set to come get your load. That was one of the things we did most of the time rescued late loads from singles out of time.

That is all there is to it.

Say no and park it before your time becomes a problem. And you will never have a problem again.

If you got fired? EXCELLENT. Point out anti corection laws within the FMCSA to your unemployment office and NAME NAMES of the dispatcher who fired you. Dates and times all written down specifically to that event that got you fired. YOU WILL get unemployment.

I started saying no and parking early with EcKMiller back in the mid 90's long before Elogs and they shorted my miles for weeks. What they did not know what I had almost 10K in savings and was able to endure the short miles without quitting for months. What I did not realize was trying to piss 10K against a billion dollar company is futile. Maryland awarded me Unemployement and EcKMiller's immediate response was to suspend all hiring from Maryland period. pretty cuthroat. It also got me black listed. But... I stayed legal in that logbook that year I decided to. Cost me pretty much everything. But I did not violate the HOS. Maybe I should have allowed that EcKmiller truck to kill several families during rush with three logs all over the cab and a qualcomm messages stacked on me to go regardless of hours. But no. I believe in saving lives not taking them.

Something to consider.

Be several hours ahead of that super computer in your cab from now on. As well as say the word No. Park her.

Eventually they will learn to schedule appts around the times you can deliver legally. You simply will not be there any eariler... UNLESS....

You find yourself a partner to team up with. maybe a wife is best or even a good person to run with. That is far superior to any single. And you both will have all kinds of times to run. No more problems now eh?