Turned up detroit feels sluggish

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  1. 770maratt

    770maratt Bobtail Member

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    Hey guys I hope I can get some help here
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    Here are the specs

    DDE4 12.7 in a 200 Volvo 770
    Fleet air filter
    Borg warner 171701 turbo
    Full tilt ceramic coated manifold
    Straight piped
    Rebel127 20% tune.

    Its been 6months already and I just realized there has to be something wrong with it.
    The truck just drives like a dog, its very laggy unless I keep the rpms between 1600-1800rpm

    If Im climbing a hill, it will make 34psi at 1700rpm and the boost quickly drops off, by 1500rpm it makes 28psi, 1400 its at 25psi. I dont think this is right and I'll explain why. It doesnt pull the hills any better than when it was stock.

    Yesterday i noticed the truck was pulling like a raped ape for the first time ever.
    I was climbing a hill in ohio on the i77, I look at the boost gauge and its making 34psi at 1300rpm and the egt's are at 750-800!!
    Usually i dont let it get to 1300 as its got no balls there and egt's get to 900+ and the boost is at like 22psi.

    So I got excited and did some testing on some of the decent hills. At 1550rpm it made 36psi, and 37psi at 1700.
    I did not have to drop a single gear when I usually have to. It felt like I could make full boost at the tip of my toe

    I also noticed on the cluster where it reads the mpg, my instant mpg would hit 2.5 in 13th gear when it's always hit 3.0-2.8 Depending how it feels.

    An hour goes by its back to how it always runs, builds boost slow, very laggy id say it feels worse than a stock 500.

    There are no codes and the engine light never comes on. I have no idea where to start. Could it be a weak fuel pump? If it could, how was it making all that power out of nowhere and then back to a dog?
    What about the boost sensor, could that have anything to do with it?

    Sorry for the long post, I hope someone can shed some light. Btw I did try to contact Leon but he's been busy lately.
     
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  3. 770maratt

    770maratt Bobtail Member

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    I just uploaded 2 short videos on youtube.
    Here they are





    Can Anyone with similar mods chime in?
     
  4. benjamin260_6

    benjamin260_6 Medium Load Member

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    There's a setting in the ECM that de-rates your hp if you don't maintain a set fuel mileage number. It could be that you finally got over that number and got full power. Then playing around with it put you right back under. Mine used to do that until I had it at the dealer and he turned it down to 5mpg. That's the only thing I can think of
     
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    benjamin260_6 Medium Load Member

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    By the way, with your set up, you'll be much, much happier if you upgrade to a 171702 turbo
     
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  6. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    the 171701 is the hold up should have went with the 171702
     
  7. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    His turbo choice is the the reason for his issues.
    He's got something else going on.
    I would start with a new boost sensor.
     
  8. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    171701 prolly running out of steam on the high end
     
  9. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    If his pyrometer is not hot then he's not running out of air.
    And if it was , it wouldn't be doing it intermittently.

    He's got issues but his turbo isn't one of them.
     
  10. benjamin260_6

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    The turbo has nothing to do with this issue, the 171702 is just a better turbo for his set up. His problem is definitely electronic
     
  11. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    yes i know the 702 is a better turbo for his set up
     
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