risk disclosing court supervision?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by datnewnew, Jul 20, 2017.

  1. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    What I would do then is wait till after all this is done then start filling out apps.
     
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  3. G13Tomcat

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    I'd call that attorney (if he's representing you...he should be if he isn't) asap and explain this to him, that you need it plead DOWN for your CDL future, and hopefully you will have all the money for costs / fines, etc...when you DO go to court . . . The judge and/or the prosecutor would be more inclined to ACCEPT the plea, if it's a "one and done" kind of a deal. That's how they are here in Ohio, anyway.
     
  4. Moose1958

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  5. Jazzy J

    Jazzy J Medium Load Member

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    If you have an attorney representing you see if the ticket can be changed to a non moving violation. And pay that fine. Plus lawyer fees.
     
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  6. carramrod32

    carramrod32 Heavy Load Member

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    Just wait til the supervision is up then start trucking, clean slate, clean record that way.
     
  7. G13Tomcat

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    How would that erase / negate the 15 over? Is that what the "probation" is about, to make that "go away" somehow?!?

    I haven't had one of those since I was in my 20's, may be behind the times. Just my 2 cents would be to plead it down.
     
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  8. G13Tomcat

    G13Tomcat Road Train Member

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    Pretty much what I said. Those dang 15 plussers can sure be a booger to clear, I've heard. Not so in the 80's, LoL~!
     
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  9. Ridgeline

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    Ok here is the thing. If you don't disclose it, and the carrier finds out in their annual review of your record, then they can fire you without notice and it can be considered falsified your application. WhIch will go on your dac and you will have issues getting another job.

    I had a discussion with my insurance company and they are talking about drivers with 15 over ticket not to be insurable in the future.
     
  10. moloko

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    Here's the other thing. Until you've actually been CONVICTED of a violation, nothing is showing up on your background check. There's no record until it's a conviction. Unless the language of the application asks about pending tickets, you can safely and legally answer "no" to it. If you need court permission for this, let them know you're trying to get it together and the travel would be for a job. I guarantee you that unless you're on felony sex offender parole, nobody's going to hold you back from working. Even on misdemeanor probation, you can usually travel without restrictions even if the minute order says you're restricted from traveling. The only issue then, would be the carrier finding out about your probation when you're getting a background check. But like I said, without a conviction--an actual conviction, not just a pending charge--without a conviction, nobody is going to know anything anyways.
     
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  11. Moose1958

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    This is true but fails to take the annual review into account. I agree 100% that until the case is adjudicated and the ticket hits the state MVR there is no record to see. However if you lie about the case and then the conviction is discovered during the review, then what do you do if asked about it? The best advice is always going to be tell the truth in all matters related to tickets and accidents. Oh for the record I know of 2 people that lost good driving jobs that lied on their applications and then the lie was discovered on the annual review. Some carriers have no choice because sometimes their insurer checks MVR's. Even regular insurance companies check MVRs from time to time. Sorry because of this annual review I can never agree with withholding information like this. I know a lot of people that work in safety depts all over the country. I have contact with them almost daily. I have several of them as facebook friends. One friend works for a Nebraska based carrier. This person told me several weeks ago in regard to another thread that if they see any convictions not listed on an application that is later seen during this FMCSA mandated review the driver is subject to termination.

    People, DON"T lie by overt telling an untruth or a lie of omission. These lies can come back home to roost! Be totally honest about convictions the locations and the elements of said conviction. Best way to avoid that dreaded trip to safety after being summoned to the closest terminal.
     
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