risk disclosing court supervision?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by datnewnew, Jul 20, 2017.

  1. carramrod32

    carramrod32 Heavy Load Member

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    Based on what the OP first said I did not not see probation mentioned but supervision was mentioned. The same or different I don't know? I haven't had any kind of ticket since 2006 so I guess I'm behind the times as well.
     
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  3. G13Tomcat

    G13Tomcat Road Train Member

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    Mine was in the 80's.. idk either.

    ps: last TICKET was in 90's.... 15 over, in 80's.
     
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  4. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Good advice on here so far. Get that charged reduced before applying anywhere.
     
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  5. bmburds

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  6. bmburds

    bmburds Bobtail Member

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    You missed the point, he has not been convicted as of yet, so unless the application specifically ask about pending charges, he is not lying or withholding information. But as soon as it goes through court he has to notify his company legally. They may still release him due to 15 over being uninsulated plus csa points involved. And yes even pov can add csa points., but can not terminate him for falsifying unless he doesn't notify them of court outcome. Please read before giving your answer like so many have, assuming he has been convicted, with a good lawyer he can get it moved to non moving violations, I did cost me more but kept speed off record. But until court no determination of guilt or even charges has been determined.
     
  7. datnewnew

    datnewnew Light Load Member

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    It's not a conviction. If I successfully complete the court supervision period WITHOUT receiving any other moving violations, then the charge is dropped.
     
  8. austinmike

    austinmike Road Train Member

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    Ain't that the truth. My 37 over in ' 87 cost me a whole 24 bucks lol
     
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  9. DTP

    DTP Road Train Member

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    What they don't know won't hurt em. Go for it...
     
  10. Studebaker Hawk

    Studebaker Hawk Road Train Member

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    I agree with Moloko on this. The application usually says list all moving violations you have been convicted of in the last 3-5 or whatever years. If the outcome you anticipate removes this from any record, and at this time there is no record of a conviction, you can truthfully omit this incident. If for some reason later on it turns up as a conviction for 15 over, or some other charge, then you will put that down on your annual review and it is up to the company to make the next move.
    Here is a hypothetical: Suppose you went through a red light camera, or speed camera and didn't know it on say Monday the 1 st. You apply for a job on say Monday the 8th. You get the job and start work Monday the 16th. About 2 months later you get the summons in the mail about the ticket. You didn't falsify your application there either. No conviction, indeed you didn't even know about the charge.
    Get the position, do a terrific job, both driving and attitude, and make them think twice about ever letting you go.
     
  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I have filled out applications where it said list all convictions and any open cases. Just for the record, you should disclose this information. When a company goes over your application they want a snapshot of you THAT DAY. Disclose, to do otherwise is simply wrong. And for the record I know for a fact I am not the only one in here that has seen applications where they want open case information. You can't get around this and it is a pointless waste of time to do so. Now if you plan to fight a case and have it on good authority you might get the charges dropped or changed that is one thing. However to not disclose an open case where you are going to pay the fine just adds problems you don't need later. I will never understand why people come into these forums and advise people to hide and obfuscate. The truth warts and all is the best way to go. In the end it is the only way to make sure there are no surprises later. I know scores of drivers that have been hired start driving and later get called to a terminal and fired by safety because of something that the driver thought was hidden that came back to bite them. You can call me a fuddy dutty that has no clue. However all I can say is Trucking in this country is HEAVILY REGULATED BY THE US AND ALL THE STATES. Plus the insurance companies are getting tougher and tougher on this. In fact so much that a lot of carriers have chosen to self insure.
     
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