I appreciate the heads up Chalupa. It looks like I have 2 job options and neither are appearing to be very stable in terms of what the future brings. Unfortunately, I have to take one of them to make ends meet, it's just trying to decipher which is the better of the 2 evils and sadly, there is no "right answer." I just have to pick one and hope for the best unfortunately lol. Both could leave me sitting on my ### wondering what happened, which is not something I'm comfortable with, but that's the current dilemma. I didn't expect sunshine and rainbows when I made this post, but I did expect to hear a few more positive reviews, but maybe that's just the money hungry side of me. At least with the 1099 deal, if it turned to shambles, atleast I'm home every night with a good work schedule, although the money isn't nearly as good. But from what I'm hearing it might no be THAT far off in terms of money, if I end up going to the oil field and end up not running in the manor I was expecting.
Dave
Hesitant to make the jump. Frac Sand via flatbed for AmeriField
Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by TheyCallMeDave, Jul 25, 2017.
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Not a lot of activity on this side of the forum it seems compared to others, just a genuine BUMP for anymore possible opinions or experiences of whats going on out there in West or East TX currently.
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Youll be driving the new trucks back and then get an old beat up worn out truck with no ac assigned to you. Why would they give the new trucks to the new guys? They wouldnt, especially sleeper trucks.
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Let me add one more piece of info for you. We don't use the sand box...we use trailers but all that's on the frac contractor and his choice.
What I did see was sand boxes being hauled in loaded 2 on a FB....and 4 mty's being hauled out on 1 FB. Right there that's money out of one drivers pocket. Also, there is now 3 sand loading facilities in Big Lake and one more in Barnhart. That means they can cut your mileage with rail service. I'd also wager they will cover at least 100 square miles from a cost stand point as the nearest sand plant I believe is in Waco.
Great to have in boom times but a drivers wage killer in lean times.
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Can you make a decent paycheck in West Texas? Im sure you can. Are companies throwing money at drivers to keep them from going down the road for an extra $1 an hour? Doubtful. But the deal with west Texas was that nobody wanted to go there. But Im sure plenty went cause they needed the money.
The boom aint coming back anytime soon. There are so many holes poked all over ND and Texas that when prices climb, companies start pumping and it drives the price right back down. Also the price of labor dropped after the bust so the major players completed a lot of infrastructure at a lower cost. All of which will lessen the need for drivers when the boom does return.
Apparently the sand business is changing over to these new boxes. I saw plenty of "sand box" trucks in South Texas. It makes less dust, which is the new asbestos these days. If youre confident its a strong company it could be a good opportunity. But as others have said, you could be making good money for a month or two or three and then be sitting in your truck for days on end. If you go consider it a temporary gig and at worst youll have money in the bank and bills payed down, not a shiny new pickup that the bank let you borrow.Western flyer, chalupa and TheyCallMeDave Thank this. -
However the job isn't necessarily set in stone in regards to a LONG term contract. But atleast I'm home every night with minimal hours, and a short 20 minute commute to the yard. Still, the allure of making a few hundred bucks or more a day if things flow smoothly in the oil field has me very intrigued. Unfortunately, nobody can really tell me what it's going to be like because I've talked to several people, and one guy will say this is possible, while another in the same location will say it's not, which I'm assuming has to do with what company you're running for.
I've asked many questions regarding the oil field deal to my "recruiter" and I told him up front that I'm not looking to be "convinced" I just want the facts whether they're good or bad and so far while I remain skeptical, he's given me decent answers to just about everything I've asked with minimal amounts of collusion.
The short & skinny of what I've gotten from him regarding my questions.
1. We are in fact being put in the 2017 Kenworth's although I would of been happy in a 06' 379 as originally planned.
2. Trucks are governed at 72, no driver facing cameras although I'd prefer to be able to push it to 80-85 as that's what I'm used to.
3. Their supposedly working the Halliburton wells, and said if a well goes down they either re-route you, or you wait if it will only be a day or 2 until it's "operational" but they pay you to sit, "supposedly." I'm still waiting to see HOW MUCH they pay you for sitting as they were supposed to have a "meeting" on that last night.
4. Obviously 21 days on, 7 days off and you dead head back to the yard in Haslet for home time.
5. Of course you don't get paid for the short orientation, or for the trip to Oklahoma to pick up your truck, or for the trip back to Haslet to get your trailer, OR for the trip out to the oilfield so you're looking at multiple hours of free driving there.
6. You can run anytime of day you'd like, I've read that the guys on elogs out there only run during the day, and from my understanding you can run as hard as you like just don't get busted and they don't want to know about it, which is fine with me. Obviously that comes with the territory becasue that's the only reason folks go out there.
7. Paid weekly, benefits after 30 days, yada yada yada
8. Their pneumatic guys are averaging 2 loads a day, some doing more, their loads obviously pay more than the box guys, the sand box guys are averaging 3 or more "supposedly" although I've seen some videos on you-tube of some substantial delays for the guys pulling boxes due to there being no empties.
9. Destination is unknown. From my understanding, it could be West, OR East Tx. -
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I fully understand the lure of making good money in the oilfields. You have to realize you wont be operating in a bubble. Texas DPS doesnt play around with oilfield trucks operating on their roads. We had a guy get 17 violations on his truck and trailer. These trucks are driven on lease roads and take a beating. Dust and grit gets stuck to everything. Springs break and the constant pounding causes stress on everything. We had a guy lose a set of tandems off his trailer and didnt even realize it. The more experienced guys would pretrip everytime they were about to get on the highway.
The whole time I was out there I knew any truck I was driving you could find multiple violations on. These were new trucks and trailers. We had a shop on site so we could get flats and lights etc fixed before we rolled. (the guy with 17 violations was driving a 3-4 year old truck) Also jumping from company to company doesnt look great on an application. Try finding a decent job with 17 violations and 3-4 different employers in the last 2 years.
It could be a good opportunity, just know that its always a gamble even during the boom times.
Any way you could drive out there on your own? I had a good idea of who I wanted to work for in south Texas. I drove all the way from Williston ND and sat up in a truck stop and "ambushed" some of their drivers before I applied. Things were still in the boom phase though so I knew Id work for some company there.austinmike and TheyCallMeDave Thank this.
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