Noise in your receiver

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  1. rabbiporkchop

    rabbiporkchop Road Train Member

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    What we normally call static is more properly known as contact electrification caused by the triboelectric effect. Ungrounded materials can become electrically charged when they contact another material and then become separated. While in contact, or “adhered,” electrochemical charges move between the two objects, and when separated, there can be an imbalance of electrons between them, with one object having more and the other having less. Once the surface of an object is charged, coming into contact with a non-charged object can cause a sudden discharge of the static. Essentially, it’s a tiny lightning bolt. If you’ve ever noticed that you can get shocked when climbing out of your car after a drive, it’s because the car’s metal shell has built up a charge from rubbing with the passing air. (Air can act as an electrically charged material, too.) No doubt, you’ve noticed that static tends to be more prevalent in the winter when air is dry. This is because moisture in the air helps electrons to dissipate more quickly so less static charge can build up.
    Airplanes use static dischargers to mitigate this effect. Static discharger - Wikipedia
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    I'm sure you have noticed cars and trucks using these as well...
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    This partially explains why some folks have more noise than others.

    Static is everywhere. Check this out.
     
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  3. wolverine11

    wolverine11 Road Train Member

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    Why little or no static in FM mode?
     
  4. rabbiporkchop

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    I'm sure Ridgeline knows, although he has a tendency to keep the info secret.
    I have no idea regarding FM since I don't use it.
     
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  5. CW Spook

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    Static, from whatever cause, be it 'triboelectric', lightning, or unshielded sparkplugs is amplitude modulated, thus affecting both AM and SSB, which is just a sophisticated method of AM. FM is frequency modulation and an FM receiver is not affected by AM noise pulses.
     
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  6. wolverine11

    wolverine11 Road Train Member

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    Is it against Fcc regulations to use Fm mode on 11 meter?
     
  7. volvo244t

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    You've obviously not tried FM mode on the average 10 meter export.
     
  8. wolverine11

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    Once on a General lee very little static, other time on a Galaxy 45mp with alot of static.
     
  9. wolverine11

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    There have been numerous other occasions and as I remember correctly Fm just didnt seem to have as much static as Am, based on your post Volvo you apparently have had a different experience using Fm mode.
     
  10. Ridgeline

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    Not keeping anything a secret, just have to ask.

    FM means Frequency Modulation where the frequency shifts back and forth with the audio introduced into the oscillator circuit (for simplicity). Some call it encoding, others call it modulating the frequency, but overall it is the same thing. AM is a signal that the audio is added to the fixed signal itself and has to be rectified out of the signal.

    On the other end, the receive picks up the signal and it is decode what is called a discriminator, there are several type but that's not important. The discriminator process the signal because the audio is actually in the frequency shift opposed to rectifying it so the discriminator ignores all the noise that is also coming into the receiver to give near real life audio.

    If you want a really in depth discussion about it, you can find tons of info on it, like the differences between discriminators or how to slope tune an AM radio to listen to FM.

    But we've discussed static here a lot of times before, one solution is to have broken bungie cords hanging from the steps of the truck onto the ground, which is what i have with my little Plymouth in the barn to cure static. Others (I think Craig is the one who does this) uses graphite that is added to the oil in the hubs.

    Other sources of static actually have something to do with the electrical system while many many trucks also have issues with "static" being created within the electrical/ECM systems and that is measurable through the use of an Ultrasonic receiver.
     
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