Any log book theoreticians here?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by TallJoe, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    We don't know that, and even if we did, this is just so wrong.

    If he meets all the provisions, he does not have to keep a grid based RODS, he will still need to keep a time card. As in a record of being on-duty. There is also the fact it's unlikely he started the day at the shop.

    Then there is the actual provisions of the "local logging rule" all 3 must be met.
    1. 100 air mile radius.
    2. Must log off duty no more than 12 hours from coming on duty.
    3. Must have started and stopped at the same location.
     
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  3. JimmyWells

    JimmyWells Road Train Member

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    Spoken like a true slave.
     
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  4. flatbeb mac

    flatbeb mac Medium Load Member

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    If miles go on the truck or I have a receipt I log it. I even log on duty for a period after arriving at the shop. Same with picking it up on duty to pay etc. If the driver is doing anything company related then it has to be logged. I try to do my best to comply with their rules.

    I guess the question is, who logs the time talking to brokers? Cause well, by the book it should be logged....

    Coloring books for the win!
     
  5. sourdiesel

    sourdiesel Light Load Member

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    Well the way I look at it what they don't won't hurt you its my truck. To much micro management just do your job and keep your mouth shut.
     
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  6. DDlighttruck

    DDlighttruck Road Train Member

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    That's the answer my office gave me about the same type question. We all do it now on paper, drop the trailer and bobtail home. But we should be logging personal conveyance.
    Then my next question was say I run into town and get parts and go back to the shop and that exceeds my daily 75 km allowance, now "technically" I need to log as driving? In the middle of my reset?

    This is going to take some adjustment.

    Like everyone says the rules aren't different but now we have to follow them closer.
     
  7. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Done with the Audit! At long last. It took them about a year to summon me, and I knew it was coming, so it has been the most compliant year in my trucking life. So I guess I will stay this way now with ELDs to be on board in a month or two. The guy was easygoing but did look close at some of the logs he picked at random, compared them to the time stamps on receipts and took his time, nothing he found, as there was nothing to be found. The audit was a quick deal - less then an hour. Just make sure you have all the staff they request. And literally, when they say driver file, it means a file with a label saying "Driver File" on it. Same thing for other categories. There was another guy at the table next to mine in that conference room who showed all the paperwork loose and his auditor told him at some point that it should be segregated in files and not by staples...They like it that "bureaucratic" way.
    The topic question was answered as YES. He said, you could theoretically argue this or that, but when it comes down to "academical" rule interpretation then anything related to work and involving operating/driving a vehicle needs to be accounted for. Not that he cared much about it nor wanted to elaborate on it but since I asked...Anyway, I guess, for all practical purposes taking a truck to a shop will be decided by an ELD soon enough - if it sees the movement then it logs it, if it does not then it does not log it.
     
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  8. JimmyWells

    JimmyWells Road Train Member

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    Get a setup that has the personal conveyance option. For me it's a moot point as I'll never own a truck newer than a 99 so I'll never have to run an ELD.
     
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