Construction job with elds

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  1. jamespmack

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    So this is a question to get others thoughts. Im up todate and understand elds, and regs. I do not normally do construction jobs or projects. I picked up a few that was local with hourly wage. But the construction industry, or formans seem to have no idea whats about to happen. The work there guys or job sight all the want, or can. To them its 12, 14 hours on job site. But us guys have to travel to or from. They mostly pay one way, and dont realize 12hrs pay is more like 14,15,or 16 hours drive. Alot try to run the 100 mile radius but that limits to 12hrs period, before logs, or eld is required. Im not complaining. But what are your thoughts for the guys that do road construction, any plans or ideas? This is meant to be conversation not a bi@@h fest.
     
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  3. Voodoo Pyg

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    But I thought you guys wouldn't be effected.
     
  4. jamespmack

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    Im not one of those guys, If you read the post. Its says that im not a construction truck. Just picked up two random jobs that were.
     
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    Either way...
    Daily driving time limit of 11 hours is maintained.
    The 60 / 70 hour weekly driving limits are also unchanged.
    Consecutive hours of driving are limited to 8 hours following an off-duty break of at least 30 minutes.
    Maximum on-duty time will remain at 14 hours.
    Drivers must take a 30-minute break during the first 8 hours of a shift.
    Drivers transporting construction materials and equipment to and from an active construction site within a 50 air mile radius of
    the drivers normal work reporting location are allowed to restart the on-duty counting period following an off duty period of 24 or
    more successive hours.
    Drivers that do not meet the construction driver definition can restart the weekly on duty clock following a 34 hour off duty period
    that includes at least two periods between 1:00 am and 5:00 am.
    The rule limits the use of the 34 hour restart to once a week thus limiting restarts to one every 168 hours.
    The practical effect of new on duty limits result in weekly driving time being reduced from 82 to 70 hours during a seven consecutive day driving period.

    From AGC.
     
  6. jamespmack

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    Hey ######, I know the rules as stated. I was asking professionals in the field that do it everyday, how are they gonna handle there relationship with construction companies. I feel I need to say that because you seem to blurt out whatever you feel like and didnt really read the post. I could care less. Far as I care, I dont feel that work pays enough. Did I do two jobs? Yes. Am I scratching my head listening to owners brag about how great these jobs are? Yes.
     
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    While you seem to have an arbitrary need to use foul language you really weren't specific no matter how many times I read your post. Yeah. Most have bragged and I laugh at the thought. So bless you any way sir. By the way most of their attitudes are unchanged. Spoke to many of them. Thank you for your time.
     
  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    I'm going to say 99% of them will claim the 8/30 exemption from the ELD, as their drivers likely already claim the 100 air-mile radius exemption (whether they know it or not, simply because they AREN'T logging, and really only "on the clock" at the jobsite). And yes, that IS legal, as you are allowed to commute in a CMV as PC (off duty), so if they drive to (pc/off duty), put in their 12 hour day, and drive home (pc/off duty), they still qualify for the exemption. Trick is, they must be released from duty during that time...no "run by the office and pick that up on your way" or they lose the exception. But who's keeping track of that? Their time card looks good IF audited because it's all 12 hour days, so no logs are required.
     
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    I do run time cards and 100 mile radius alot in my operation. And do exactly what your saying Pedigreed. But Not construction. My work is on my time, mostly. Not some site supervisor. But its my truck. I question what the dump trucks on a paving job. These fleets pay hourly. So the truck is paid 12,13,14 or more hours on the job. Then the employee turns on say a 13 hour time card. If or when they are audited wouldnt the drivers time card show him under direction of company excedding 11 hours and not on P/C? I mean they are being paid to drive truck home.
     
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