E-logs gonna make o/o tons of money

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by ywevis, Sep 27, 2017.

  1. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Ugh...

    I'd rather keep hammering and be done sooner.
     
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  3. nax

    nax Road Train Member

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    Or sooner into a ditch or rear of another trailer...and then you will wish you has taken a 30min break...lmao
     
  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    All that does is usually leaves me more tired.
     
  5. Antinomian

    Antinomian Road Train Member

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    Same here. As I see it, the mandatory thirty minute break is just thirty minutes of unpaid labor.
     
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  6. ratc1956

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    You’re right, and you’re wrong! Freight rates will go up considerably. Are the owner operators and your smaller companies under 100 trucks going to be able to compete. Not likely, except in runs under 500 miles. And those runs there will be so much competition, that the freight rates most likely will not go up.
    The big companies have been waiting for the day that he logs are mandatory, to bring things on it even keel. ( not really )
    Here is what they have been waiting for. The only way smaller companies will be able to operate on an even level with the larger companies is a team operation. Because larger companies will be setting up relays for most runs over 600 miles. For instance, Single operator leaving Green Bay Wisconsin, heading to Central Florida, approximate traveling time to an a half days.
    Your larger companies, Will be relaying, first relay point somewhere around the Kentucky Tennessee line, Second relay, somewhere around Ocala Florida, where local truck will complete the delivery. The larger companies will be able to offer 24 to 28 hour From pick up to delivery time. And there is where the freight rates will rise. Don’t kid yourself, this is the day the large companies have been waiting for.
    So as far as the smaller companies and the owner operator will be concerned, they still will be competing in a ratw war for That shorter freight. And most likely the larger companies will keep out of that.
     
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  7. ratc1956

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    You’re right, and you’re wrong! Freight rates will go up considerably. Are the owner operators and your smaller companies under 100 trucks going to be able to compete. Not likely, except in runs under 500 miles. And those runs there will be so much competition, that the freight rates most likely will not go up.
    The big companies have been waiting for the day that he logs are mandatory, to bring things on it even keel. ( not really )
    Here is what they have been waiting for. The only way smaller companies will be able to operate on an even level with the larger companies is a team operation. Because larger companies will be setting up relays for most runs over 600 miles. For instance, Single operator leaving Green Bay Wisconsin, heading to Central Florida, approximate traveling time to an a half days.
    Your larger companies, Will be relaying, first relay point somewhere around the Kentucky Tennessee line, Second relay, somewhere around Ocala Florida, where local truck will complete the delivery. The larger companies will be able to offer 24 to 28 hour From pick up to delivery time. And there is where the freight rates will rise. Don’t kid yourself, this is the day the large companies have been waiting for.
    So as far as the smaller companies and the owner operator will be concerned, they still will be competing in a ratw war for That shorter freight. And most likely the larger companies will keep out of that.
     
  8. ratc1956

    ratc1956 Bobtail Member

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    You’re right, and you’re wrong! Freight rates will go up considerably. And the owner operators and your smaller companies under 100 trucks not going to be able to compete. Not likely, except in runs under 500 miles. And those runs there will be so much competition, the freight rates most likely will not go up in those short runs
    The big companies have been waiting for the day that he logs are mandatory, to bring things on it even keel. ( not really )
    Here is what they have been waiting for. The only way smaller companies will be able to operate on an even level with the larger companies is a team operation. Because larger companies will be setting up relays for most runs over 600 miles. For instance, Single operator leaving Green Bay Wisconsin, heading to Central Florida, approximate traveling time to an a half days.
    Your larger companies, Will be relaying, first relay point somewhere around the Kentucky Tennessee line, Second relay, somewhere around Ocala Florida, where local truck will complete the delivery. The larger companies will be able to offer 24 to 28 hour From pick up to delivery time. And there is where the freight rates will rise. Don’t kid yourself, this is the day the large companies have been waiting for.
    So as far as the smaller companies and the owner operator will be concerned, they still will be competing in a ratw war for That shorter freight. And most likely the larger companies will keep out of that.
     
  9. shogun

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    Keep in mind that 90 percent of trucking companies are twenty trucks or less. Just in time freight is the exception, not the rule. I would say that any run within 1300 miles should still be fine for a single driver within a two day time frame for general dry freight. It might affect reefer loads more than any other industry due to ridiculous wait times.

    I haul boxes, the basis for all shipping, and I rarely go to a place that is shipping load after load nonstop like people act like is going on. I also hauled Nissan automotive for years, hundreds of loads a day coming in and out, yet still the stuff sits on the pad not being unloaded. It's best to just sit and see how it plays out, may not notice much of a difference unless you run 5000 miles a week as a solo.
     
  10. STexan

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    I haul solo reefer freight (frozen and dairy primarily) in mid sized operation(s). Have been for the last 4 years on eLogs. Run all the miles I can run most weeks running up against my 70 daily the majority of the days, hauling 1,000-3,000+ mile runs. Not sure why the notion keeps surfacing that [long] reefer freight is going to have to go to team.

    With proper dispatching and planning and taking care of your customers, eLogs can be dealt with. If they can't, then they probably have no business in the trucking industry anyway. That's my two cents.

    The people who are going to have the biggest problem are the regional and multi-regional haulers doing 7+ live pickups or drops every week. Bottom line is, their miles ability is going to drop until they can "re-tool" the operation and their approach to doing business.
     
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  11. Gagandhindsa

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    Lets watch.
    Paper log is keeping rates down and keeping accident rate lower
    You will know that soon
     
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