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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by MrReactor, Sep 4, 2006.

  1. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I wouldn't say that. He just wouldn't have the job long once they found out he lied, either by omission or otherwise.

    As always, Turbo's right. The insurance carrier has the final say on who is to be hired by any trucking co. Without the insurance carrier, the trucking co. goes out of business.
     
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  3. buckshottx

    buckshottx Bobtail Member

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    Are you insane?:smt065

    I gotta side with this guy. Go to school There a a ton of things you need to know that trucking school will teach you. Plus you'll get some driving training. You're gonna need it. You may think it looks easy but it takes practice and skill. You don't want to be the guy all of us despise for backing into our truck or cutting us off. You don't want to be the guy around back of the scale cause you didn't know how to fill out your coloring book right. I don't want to be the guy next to you while you're trying to back in all tired eyed and stuff and you didn't get the training or experience to handle it!!! :smt065
    Don't be foolish!!!:confused1:
     
  4. pro1driver

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    maybe i should have made some sort of clarification statement(s). wearing of the "silver bracelette's" can be a fact if he's caught in a lie (about his experience/schooling) and the trucking company reports the truck as stolen, the company's way of stopping him from causing any harm to others. or the silver bracelett's can be worn if he's in some type of severe logbook violation(s), and has an accident in which someone dies or is critically injured. anybody can be a "guest" of any state hotel, but i do believe that without proper training, and then down right lying about his past/experiences can pretty much ensure he'll look "sharp" in silver..............
     
  5. MrReactor

    MrReactor Light Load Member

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    I am not the first or last to be apart of this "plan". I work for a company that sees this every single day; fact of the matter is log books don't mean jack ************ to the person giving you the loads neither does your life, I decided to go for a full course on my own but will still try out this $1500 a week gig ...heck who wouldn't ?

    ps. not taking taxes out of someones check is not illegal you 10:99 the guy so he pays taxes at the end of the year.
     
  6. TruckDriver05

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    Sorry there "wannabe" driver. Sounds to me like you are wanting something for nothing. That isn't going to get you anywhere. Haven't you ever heard that if somethings worth having then its worth working for? I couldn't believe my eyes when I read your message. No one is going to just hand you a CDL and if they do then you had better turn and run as far and fast as you can. Getting a CDL is hard work and it's a huge accomplishment that you should be proud of. If you take the "easy way out" and get your license and then lie your way into a job, you are robbing yourself of great knowledge. You are also putting yourself and everyone else on the hwy in great danger!! That isn't cool!
    I will be one of the first people to stand up and say that Swift Transportation is very bad company and they treat their drivers crappy. However, In Kansas City, MO there is a Swift Driving Academy. All the teachers there are very good at what they do and have alot of years under their belts. They can teach you what you need to know. Infact, I still stay incontact with some of them and they are always willing to give me some advice when I need it.
    Go to a proper school and do things the right way. You'll get out of it what you put into it.

     
  7. pro1driver

    pro1driver Heavy Load Member

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    i think you are misinformed............you either pay them quarterly which may be easier, or at the end of the year when you file. and i can assure you, that "boss man" will be sending uncle sam his statements that he paid you all that money.............and no, its not entirely illegal, but it is if you don't pay up what's due at tax time.

    and no, you may not be the "first" of this master plan, but again you went on talking about being paid pennies from some crappy company, i do hope for your sake, you are paid for ALL miles, loaded and empty.

    best of luck to you, you'll need it as you are as blind as a bat in this matter.........
     
  8. Beanfacekilla

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    AMEN. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. And a school is just a step towards being a professional driver. If you are willing to lie, just to get behind the wheel, you better not share the road with my family, friends, or ME.
     
  9. Cerberus_Kelpie

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    I've ELIMINATED some of my "references" because of either a no good ref. or because the time was too short at that company.
    Maybe I'm fibbing a wee bit yet I also have the experience that is VERIFIABLE especially through DAC or USIS.
    I've been driving off and on since I went to a school in TN. in '98.
    I've been coast to coast and to the southern end of I-95.
    I've been to Portland, Maine. I've been to NYC (Manhattan) in a straight truck ONCE and never in a combo other than up and down I-95. What a road!! I've been almost all over the Windy and prefer it to NYC--less to hit and costs less too.
    The only lying I have really done is with the comic book, also called the LIE book, and log book.

    Yeah I made about $1500.00 for A run once and it took a little over a week from NC to AZ (Friday eve to Sunday eve), then to Dallas( by Tues. for stop 1) thru Cin City, to Cleveland(stop 2) and on to Philly for the final by Sat. morn. I deadheaded from Philly to NC. I made this trip ONCE!
    Loose Leaf logs work very well.
    The only lying I have EVER done when driving OTR was when I was driving OTR.
    I've lied to employers yet only with eliminating past places of employment, NEVER about experience I don't have!!

    Verification of experience is easy enough simply through how one drives.
    There ARE QUITE MANY drivers that have "graduated' from some "schools" that have not the ability to back their combos up to ANYTHING and are obvious when they try. This is verifiable by watching people at truck stops. I witnessed a Swift driver take 1/2 hour to back to a dock at a food distributor and this driver had not the usual problems of other trucks around, in fact there were two dead spaces, one on either side, of the slot he was trying to get into, so go figure!! It would have been hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.

    I worked for a company in '91 that wanted me to drive a tractor about 30 miles yet I stated that I didn't have the ability from the state. I drove that tractor about 5 miles and stopped cause I didn't want any problems to bite me later. I might have been okay and I might have run across one of them thar license checks because I was running the two lane.

    How do you expect to pass the state exams which DO REQUIRE ROAD DRIVING?? The "school" I went to did the road test so all I needed to do was pass the written exam which wasn't that difficult. Some schools are goofier than others.
    Even with "all the answers" one cannot elicit experience without experience.

    One has to crawl before one can walk as Nature verifies, sheesh!!
     
  10. TurboTrucker

    TurboTrucker Road Train Member

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    The arrangement you describe, where you drive for and are paid by the same person, is a position of employment. You are not an independent contractor. It is illegal, again, on HIS part.

    Employee or Independent Contractor?

    Under that arrangement, you will be responsible to pay when you file your tax return, the entire tax amount due, plus self-employment taxes. If you fail to do this by April 15 of each year, you will be hit with penalties and interest.

    The amount of self-employment tax you will have to pay, will be 15.3% of 92.35% of your GROSS pay. As an employee, half of this would be paid by your employer, and your half would be deducted on a weekly basis. You're agreeing to pay it all, but that's your choice.
     
  11. MrReactor

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    "For a worker who is considered an independent contractor, you may be responsible for issuing Form 1099-MISC, Miscellaneous Income, to report compensation paid."
     
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