If they charge 15% for their authority what should they offer in return?

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  1. IH Branded

    IH Branded Medium Load Member

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    I already have one truck with my own authority. They only allow you to have one truck with them so my second truck I am looking elsewhere. My authority which does power only grosses $1.35-1.45 per mile. Have 1.5 drivers in it (I'm the .5) Can start from and stop there 7 days a week if we want. My plates are $2500 and Insurance is $5000 per year.
    Ok now to lease the second one for the 15% to an additional carrier I provide power only. I still have to pay plates and $4500 insurance per year. The rate the way they see it is $1.75 gross but with dead head we are not used to would be about a $1.45 gross the way I figure it. I thought running under someone's authority they were on the hook for plates and insurance? What is the (going rate for other authority) I guess. I don't think I like the "lease on" deal but those carriers are the ones that built the contacts and have the loads.
     
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  3. Ridgeline

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    Why do you guys think that when you lease onto a carrier, they need to cover the plates and insurance?

    That's your problem and 15% seems high but then it depends on who is getting the work and how much money you are making. Sub-par $2 is not good to me.
     
  4. IH Branded

    IH Branded Medium Load Member

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    Don't think that. All comes out in the wash but seems many are offering plates and insurance and wanted to know what currently most carriers are doing.
    Most profit I ever made was also not a great rate. It's in the details.
     
  5. NightWind

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    I wouldn't pay 15% period. Nor would I lease to anyone that bought my plates. Reason being is if you decide to leave you have no plates and no insurance to leave on. However if you are leased to them running under their DOT numbers you have to use their liability insurance, so something doesn't smell right.
    I'm not a fan on being at the mercy on any company. Just my 2 cents worth.
     
  6. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    I'm scratching my head here, you want them to pay for your plates? I'm currently leased to a carrier out of Detroit, and have had my own authority with 5 trucks in the past. I buy my own plates, pay my own 2290, bobtail and IFTA. I would not have it any other way. If things go south, I can pick up and leave without any issues. And those rates you are getting are pretty low...
     
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    Nightwind is on the right track l think. Like he says under their authority they provide liability insurance. They usually pay for that in the % they take. You provide your own bobtail/truck ins. When l worked for a US company it was 2% of the value of the truck. If they're telling you it has to be 4 grand for bobtail/truck it sounds like they're skimming off that for more money to them. Companies buying plates and then the o/o paying them back are common up here because a lot of o/o don't have the money to pay for the plates up front. It can be a racket too because companies can overcharge and skim off that too.
    If you can, offer to get your own ins and base plates and they get their 15%. If they moan about it a lot there's your answer if they're skimming. Rates seem low to me too. But with no details what kind of work it is who knows?
     
  9. IH Branded

    IH Branded Medium Load Member

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    Tanker pulling their trailer
     
  11. IH Branded

    IH Branded Medium Load Member

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    Hot asphalt oil, burner oil, etc. Yeah it's $3-4 a mile but I always average it to all miles put on truck. Empty back deadhead etc all had to be figured
     
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