I think there are a bunch of reasons why no one has really challenge carb;
1 - OOIDA tried to using a flawed strategy, which got kicked out and it seems that (an assumption) that they paid lip service to it to appease those who really understand what it is all about while putting their resources into other things that really are not important to everyone. I talked to those in the top of the OOIDA and I have to say I wasn't impressed with their response nor their focus on the subject.
2 - I really feel people don't seem to get what it really is all about, this is scope creep of their agenda into a constitutional duty of the feds, this is something that if people would understand how the rights work, they would also be upset with CARB and California. I think the lack of press from OOIDA and other groups/individuals also convince many that it isn't worth fighting
3 - the momentum is not there for a real fight, the two above reasons are why.
4 - we haven't had real triggers of a need to challenge it in court. This is where the real rub is with our system, the law/regulation being passed doesn't mean a thing, you can't really legally go after a law until it is acted upon, so it would take some O/O from any other state who is hauling his butt into California with his 1989 pete with 5 inch stacks burning a lot of fuel and getting shut down to trigger this. I wish there was a real case but there hasn't been. most of what has been brought has been from internal to California.
5 - we have an EPA making laws, they have allowed California to define pollution and how they are to tackle it, even if it effects people from other states - which is unconstitutional. The EPA thinks that the environmental laws supersede the constitution --> the the right of an individual to travel freely and to enter a state to access the markets in the state is not as important as the right of the state to ensure the environment is clean.
Those olden dudes back in 1783 had it right, they knew what happened between the colonies when there were people who wanted to do business in another colony but were kicked out because they didn't belong so those dudes said and all the states agreed that the feds will be the only one who regulates interstate commerce between the states, then they added something else - the right of the individual to travel uninhibited between the states. CARB/California is telling us we are not allowed to unless we have special equipment to enter the state and access the markets.
Those dudes also knew that if this didn't happen, the country would be a mess. By the way, most of the federal encroachment that has happened in the last 120 years has been solely based on the Interstate commerce clause.
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That's a good point cal carb hasn't really enforced against outside drivers but they must have caught a few to give them standing .
What I really like is how they used the EPA to audit company's for carb compliance .
That blows my mind using the Feds and our money to enforce a state reg -
the line from the ATA to ELD's is not to tough to track. these guys want,and import cheap unskilled labor,that can't run a log book,so they want it done for them,and want everyone on it to "level the field" because it is,coupled with the idiotic hos laws,a productivity killer.
obviously this stance makes me a cheatin',scumbag outlaw weak tit truck stop'n trucker that needs removin' from the highways!!
in a few years guys will be comforting yourselves by saying we brought driver facing cameras on ourselves too. i mean,c'mon,you obviously don't want driver facing cameras on you cuz yer freebasing cocaine while yer drivin'!! -
And finally, they will pull a stunt of a truck driver killing a prominent family on a vacation trip, and the discussion will be about whether or not to implant chips in drivers necks that check whether indeed they slept during their break or not.
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Think of all the jobs the mega's got rid of by YOU pushing the buttons .
And how much $$$ did the save for their own pocket's .
Speed limiters are next on the agenda.
Now they have turned us into clock watchers speeding to beat the clock.
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Well every thing is supposed to be for "safety" I disagree. It's always been about money. They collect the data and sell it simple. It's the way it is especially now when everyone is so intent on giving it away for free. I myself will not be using ELD or any other electronic logging devices any time soon, yet I will still keep on trucking.
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I cannot really stand when they -pseudo truckers - FMSCA Arse licking Swift/Schneider/Werner/England/JB Hunt Lovers - call us cheaters as if we indeed were to do nothing else but cheat and scam and rob and murder. The fact is that they want ELDs to make us stay on the road, at truck stops with them - pseudo truckers - instead going home to mama. But we - real truckers- will circumvent any inconvenience, sooner or later. We'll never be friends with them - pseudo truckers, We'll still go home to mama while you enslaved by your beloved ELDs will watch us and envy from the inside of your sleepers. Nothing is going to change!!!!!!! HA HA HA!Dave_in_AZ Thanks this. -
ELD = lost jobs from those that used to file and review them. Another welfare recipient.
Self checkout registers = more profit. Lost jobs and an increase in welfare recipients.
I don't have to use eld and will not. I will also go to a cashier instead of using the self checkout lanes.nax and Dave_in_AZ Thank this.
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