Getting warm 2011 Cummins ISX on International prostar

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Alex1990, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. Alex1990

    Alex1990 Bobtail Member

    25
    4
    Jun 20, 2015
    0
    Hello guys I just did overhaul on my 2011 Cummins ISX, the engine seems to run fine but it is not cooling well at idle (we usually run idle speeds around 800 rpm's). Haven't taken it out to the streets or on any loads yet.

    The temperature climbs pretty slow . When it gets warmed up, idle temperatures climb to about 200-210 aswell and then the fan kicks in and it drops the temp. down to 180-190 where is supposedly should be right?

    Being that the fan helps drop temperature, iassume there is nothing wrong with it or thefan clutch or belt, etc. During our repairs we replaced all gaskets, orings, cylinders head , oil cooler , oil pump, thermostats , pistons ,crankshaft ,radiator, water pump etc .So basically complete overhaul was done .No water leaks, no oil leaks.
    Truck is International Prostar 2011, I’m just so tired of trying to find out what is wrong, have no money, and no time to waste on this truck.
    Do you guys suspect that the issue here is with the water pump(maybe was installedwrong) aswell or are there anyother things ishould check or suspect to be the cause of the temperature climb?

    Any comments or suggestions greatlyappreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. secorp

    secorp Medium Load Member

    318
    123
    Jan 16, 2013
    Lakeland Florida
    0
    My Pete on a Hot summers day will clutch on clutch off at just over 200.
     
    Alex1990 Thanks this.
  4. the fast Layne

    the fast Layne Bobtail Member

    4
    6
    Nov 25, 2017
    0
    alex1990, sounds to me like it's doing what it is supposed to.if it is parked idling, eventually ,it'll get warm enough to engage fan.as long as it pulls temp back down enough for fan to shut back off.mine cycles between 200-205(fan on)190-195(fan off).bobtail it up your local grade.check ALL temps at top.water ,oil ,,exhaust. congratulate yourself. now go earn back all the money you just spent.good luck
     
    Alex1990 Thanks this.
  5. cmrdev

    cmrdev Medium Load Member

    370
    373
    Oct 13, 2017
    0
    I somewhat disagree. It’s his truck and just did an overhaul and is acting odd to him compared to how it used to act. Plus it’s almost winter time. I know all trucks are different but on 60 degree most trucks won’t get anywhere near 190 degrees just sitting at idle for an extended period of time before actually hitting the road. I think he low on coolant, air in the system or poor coolant circulation with new water pump
     
    Alex1990 Thanks this.
  6. the fast Layne

    the fast Layne Bobtail Member

    4
    6
    Nov 25, 2017
    0
    10-4 can't argue that. my bad
     
  7. Alex1990

    Alex1990 Bobtail Member

    25
    4
    Jun 20, 2015
    0
    Thanks for your advice, coolant level is fine, just spent a day , was sitting there and checking . Temperature going up till 207-208F , then fan kicks on , temperature goin down to 195 , and rise again.Its just blowing my mind, will change the radiator cap in Monday. I really pray that is the problem. Because I can’t afford any other expenses
    Thanks anyway
     
  8. cmrdev

    cmrdev Medium Load Member

    370
    373
    Oct 13, 2017
    0
    Whats the outside temps where you are at? What was the normal idel temps before the rebuild? I know my motor is years older than yours and to be honest, i have never driven newer model trucks. I always drove preemission cat motor trucks or preemission mack trucks. I'm very sensitive to coolant temps and what it is doing because i have had cooling problemns in the past. Days like today the temp got up to 50 degrees. I haven't ran my truck in 4 days so i went out and started it and put at high idle at 1000 rpm for 30 minutes just to let her run. The truck barely made it to 180 and i have new everything in it. New fan clutch, thermostats, fan clutch solenoid etc. This has always been the norm for me especially on a non hot summer day. in these fall and winter months, you shouldn't be hitting 210 degrees till you get out on the road and working that motor but like i said, i have no experience with emiisions motors with egr's and dpf and etc. So maybe I'm commenting on the wrong thread and things are different.
     
  9. A21CAV

    A21CAV Road Train Member

    1,848
    2,155
    Oct 4, 2011
    Laredo, TX
    0
    I have the same truck and engine and the description points to a bad thermostat. I know it was replaced but new parts can be bad right out of the box. Mine was doing the same thing and the problem was the thermostat barely cracking open.

    Take the thermostat out and put it in a pot of water on the stove and turn on the heat. Put a kitchen candy thermometer in clipped to the pot or hold it. Thermostat should fully open at 185°

    Neither low coolant or a bad cap will cause this although it does take several heat-cool cycles to get all the air out. Don't overfill the expansion tank more than halfway between the minimum-maximum lines; it will just spit out the excess past the cap. Test the thermostat before you buy a cap you might not need. If its a bad thermostat spend the money you saved on the cap on beer. You sound like you need a few!

    Frank
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2017
    Broke Down 69 Thanks this.
  10. Alex1990

    Alex1990 Bobtail Member

    25
    4
    Jun 20, 2015
    0
    Today was around 55 -60F , before rebuild was about 180F , Never has a problem with cooling system on this truck before, thermostat was replaced twice, so there is no chance I got bad one right from the box
     
  11. cmrdev

    cmrdev Medium Load Member

    370
    373
    Oct 13, 2017
    0
    that's so frustrating. i feel your pain i really do. gotta be something simple
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.