Paper logs ... not worth it

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Verdel, Nov 27, 2017.

  1. Verdel

    Verdel Medium Load Member

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    Currently the DOT is installing cameras everywhere, you enter the scale house without have been called in, no problem - bang, bang - they have your picture in the system with time of passing.. This was exactly the case the DOT put me out of service ......

    I don't see a point driving an old truck pre 1999, if they put a cameras everywhere...
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    What does whatever type of logbook you run have anything to do with the camera systems at the scales?

    I want to keep my small flexibility of say going from a customer when empty over to the truck stop 3 miles away even though I ran out of 14 at the customer. Not going by any cameras or scales. No harm no foul. Just the small wiggle room for what is known as the real world. I am not trying to egregiously violate the hours of service. The worst I do anymore is when on long drives I might do a little extra one day and a little less the next. Example once you pass Evanston wy scale heading east. Next scale 580 miles down the road. Could I get busted at roadside? You bet. That's my gamble. On electronic I will be forced to play by the rigid rules which will not make me any safer. Whatever, thinking for yourself is obviously going to be a thing of the past when it comes to fatigued driving soon here. I rather all the scales take my picture and share the information and let me keep my paper rather than an electronic box that will blatantly point out I went over by a little bit here or there when I did not have another reasonable option.
     
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  4. LWT104

    LWT104 Light Load Member

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    Don't screw around in or, or wa. By the book there, and both states can look back when your were in t'others state.
     
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  5. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Make sure to smile and wave in front of those cameras.
     
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  6. Verdel

    Verdel Medium Load Member

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    You can do that even with ELD, it is called Off Duty Personal Convenience
     
  7. Verdel

    Verdel Medium Load Member

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    Yes I know this, but now they do this in UTAH as well. It is called "SMARTVIEW360" .

    I had plenty of hours that night, but there was accident on I-15 north on mile 75 in Nevada. It took 3 hours to clear out, then I passed the Saint George, UT scale at 20:00 instead of 17:00. But when arrived in Ogden, UT, it was more easy to put 23:00 - arriving time, than 02:00, because the 02:00 needs some 30 minutes brake somewhere and the LEO nailed me down, pulling the records of passing the scale that night...on the way back on the Saint George, UT scale north.
    I did not get ticket, because He knew that was done by lack of good sense :)

    The camera record shows my license plate and the time of passing.
     
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  8. LWT104

    LWT104 Light Load Member

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    Well, thanks for the info driver.
     
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  9. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    In the US you can, in Canada you need to be bobtail for personal use.
     
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  10. Ristow

    Ristow Road Train Member

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    those scale cameras keep the playing field level.

    you eld guys illegally using personal conveyance brought these scale cameras on yourselves. follow the law and there'd be no need for all this encroaching enforcement.
     
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  11. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    You could have put adverse driving condition.

    What Is the Adverse Driving Conditions Exception? If unexpected adverse driving conditions slow you down, you may drive up to 2 extra hours to complete what could have been driven in normal conditions. This means you could drive for up to 13 hours, which is 2 hours more than allowed under normal conditions. Adverse driving conditions mean things that you did not know about when you started your run, like snow, fog, or a shut-down of traffic due to a crash. Adverse driving conditions do not include situations that you should have known about, such as congested traffic during typical “rush hour” periods. Even though you may drive 2 extra hours under this exception, you must not drive after the 14th consecutive hour after coming on duty, and you must comply with the minimum 30-minute rest break provisions. This regulation is found in Section 395.1(b).
     
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