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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Lightseeker35, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. Lightseeker35

    Lightseeker35 Light Load Member

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    Can you book a load from a load board with your MC# and have someone else Haul it that is not leased under you? Like with their own authorities?
     
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  3. Michael H

    Michael H Medium Load Member

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    No. That would be considered double-brokering. Also, in every carrier contract I've signed, there's a clause prohibiting that exact action.

    The only reasonable exception would be to hire someone to complete the load in case of breakdown or other catastrophic failure
     
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  4. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    No.

    As stated above that will make your actions like that of a broker. That's not legal.

    You can be a trucking company or you can be a broker, but not both. Im pretty sure with my big mouth someone will come on here and tell me off that they hold both licensing. I recall one company in little rock that had a broker house whom I talked to daily. I quit after just two weeks. It's nuts. And I was supposed to do something totally different within the outfit. Im glad I quit and moved on. I knew something wasnt right....

    Imagine if mega such and such can get a bunch of loads at a profit and then create even more profit shoving bad runs onto people who don't know better.
     
  5. Lightseeker35

    Lightseeker35 Light Load Member

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    Thank you guys! But I don’t believe they’re double brokering as they are still dealing with the brokers and think they are just finding the loads for guys on the road. Is there a difference there?
     
  6. nightgunner

    nightgunner Road Train Member

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    Back in the old days we did a thing called a trip lease. It was a little funky and largely died out with the demise of the ICC and deregulation. You could have someone else temporarily rum a load under your authority as a repower.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I repowered someone's hazmat once up on a time when his engine block failed him. He was nervous as a well night lady in church until we got him to safety. Lucky nothing further happened and it became his goal to solve the problem there.
     
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  8. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    Its still around today. Doing "3rd party" work in the oilfield we have to sign a trip lease agreement to be legal. Their equipment with our signs and dot # covering up theirs. Also considered a drive away-tow away operation exempt from eld mandate
     
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  9. 06driver

    06driver Road Train Member

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    To my knowledge double brokering is not illegal unless specified in a contract.

    Unethical maybe, but not illegal. Happens daily from what I read.
     
  10. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    It's sort of legal, but the liabilities are large.

    We do trip leasing a few times a month with a few other fleet owners when there are breakdowns or they can't cover a load, it happens all the time.
     
  11. Letsgetreal

    Letsgetreal Light Load Member

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    Double brokering from a load board. However, if you have a consistent broker then maybe you can work something out. The carrier I worked with worked with brokers that allowed double brokering.
     
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