Finishing a trip

Raise your prices, raise your pay for the drivers and follow the law. This is what the rules are forcing on us. Yes you can have a different legal driver go get that truck, document all the extra costs and hits to employees pay and start sending that to your congressional representative.

 

Yep, they do it all the time up here in Michigan... Guys run out of hours in the dock, may take a few hours to get someone there to move it, and more guys run out of hours, and the cycle continues... LMAO! Going to get real interesting here when we are all on the egg timer! GM Ford and Chrysler ain't got a clue at what is about to hit them!

 

i wonder if this may be a call for some companies to have a driver's helper go on the deliveries with him, and also be a CDL driver, like say a newly licensed driver, or someone that just wants to work part time hours. then if only a helper, would that person need to on the HOS if only a helper, THEN go on the elogs when he/she has to drive the final miles?

as an example, dunkin donuts has some of thier trucks go out for deliveries with a driver helper. that person can double as a driver when the need arises. some food delivery companies have driver helpers as well.

 

Most larger carriers LOOOOOVE the idea of creating "teams" out of thin air given the current HOS rules. Even putting teams doing regional work that is normally done by solo drivers. This really doesn't cost them any more. But there is only a finite amount of freight to be moved, and they like the idea of a truck being able to run 2,500 miles, or 4,000 miles [on a good week]. Never mind the fact that now that driver wage has to be split among two drivers.

2,800/1 or 4,000/2? Where the driver loses, the carrier wins. The drivers are forced to live a miserable life in a tuna can together, high mile weeks or low mile weeks. But that's not a carrier's concern.

 

And it is all about safety...

 

It is all about the bottom line, the companies, not yours.

 

A driver is a driver is a driver. Meaning that both will still have to log all their hours.

Assuming a day cab operation; both employee's clocks start at the same time and both will be out of hours. The only way to extend the driving time is if the first driver runs out of driving hours before the 14 hour clock expires and the second driver can get the truck back to the terminal before their 14 hours expires.

 

Yes, I am aware. BTDT. My post was in response to the one I quoted which was asking if a "helper" could go along, but only log in later to finish the driving.

 

It's going to burn 4 hours for the second driver to go to the truck, kick the sleeping driver out and take truck trailer to yard. Call it 5 hours or so. It's silly. Not only that, but potentially interfering with that drivers 10 hour mandatory rest, he cannot touch nothing while in the bunk, and certainly not unhook and swap trailers (Onduty time...) And will have to repeat his 10 before being able to drive. So forget that.

The original driver out of hours 100 miles from the yard is just going to have to take his 10 and stay put and get his hours back. Your dispatcher will have to suck it up and wait that length of time.

Any time one of your trucks approach being out of hours have another in position as a sort of dog catcher ready to get it off him before he really does run out of hours.