Overweight Violation Q - NYS

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by ravenwolfcartage, Oct 29, 2008.

  1. Markk9

    Markk9 "On your mark"

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    Not ignorance..........it is your job to be of legal weight. You can purchase a set of scales that work with the trucks suspension. It's the drivers fault not have the equipment he need to preform the job.

    Mark
     
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  3. 24valve puller

    24valve puller Medium Load Member

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    So you still have not told me how a guy that hooks up to a company trailer with no air guage is going to know he is over until he gets to a scale. Yes you can put air guages on and I have them on mine, but the truck in question did not have them and was trying to do the right thing. And when you haul by the weight you are going to get a scale ticket anyway so you get paid for everything you haul so why put guages on, most of the time you are not very far from a scale.
     
  4. heyns57

    heyns57 Road Train Member

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    If you load in town, most of the time you are not far from a public scale. The shipper can give directions. I have weighed at scrap iron yards, truck terminals, truck stops, truck washes, farmer's wholesale markets, grain elevators, etc. One unique axle scale is coin operated in La Crosse, WI. If you don't ask, you will never find it.

    Loading grain, hay or cattle in the countryside is another problem. I remember when portable state scales were set up on Main Street, Ottawa, IL. Truckers loading south of the river had to cross the bridge right onto Main Street to get to the Interstate north of town. I was driving city delivery in those days with a little tractor not licensed for the amount of weight I started with in the morning. At least, I did not look out of place as I traversed the alleys behind the stores on Main Street, effectively dodging the portable scale and the line of trucks waiting to weigh.
     
  5. zeba town

    zeba town Bobtail Member

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    I've live in the u.p of michigan. there r no public scales up here. we have one at our terminal but often we load 100 miles from there going in other direction.
     
  6. CMoore2004

    CMoore2004 Road Train Member

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    Maybe the guys loading overweight in IN were heading straight up to MI where there weights may be legal. I'm pretty sure there are even provisions where you can be overweight in certain parts of IN if you're delivering from/to Michigan, but it's been a LONG time since I read about that.
     
  7. The_possum

    The_possum Bobtail Member

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    IN has a permit route from MI to IL, I believe they allow you to gross 134K, however, most guys I know that pull trains on that route are way over that amount, near the 164K limit for MI.
     
  8. ravenwolfcartage

    ravenwolfcartage Bobtail Member

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    I pull for a couple of companies and they are custom hay trailers. The company won't pay to add ANYTHING to these trailers. Also most of the farms I load at have a scale within 5 miles - so I usually don't worry about it. The scale the DOT inspector had me go to was actually further than going to the public CAT scales! I am sure I will wind up footing the bill on this one. Oh - and I had picked up a load of hay from the same farm a week before and was only at 76,000. So I really thought I was ok. Still no word from the courts.
     
  9. James R. Hoffa

    James R. Hoffa Light Load Member

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    The whole problem is truckers are too stupid to "just say no". If the shipper can't provide you with a document stating the weight of the load, or have provisions for you to scale before leaving the shippers property.

    Just leave.

    Now you are going to tell me that someone else is going to do it.

    Oh well there is a scab around every corner.

    But the guy that is doing it is the problem.
     
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