A Driver On ELogs,Fighting His 14 Hours!!

Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by mjd4277, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. 2CAN

    2CAN Medium Load Member

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    Prosecute the shipper? Ok, let is know when they write that law, I'll be standing by
     
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  3. x1Heavy

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    It's possible.

    If the shipper and reciever fails to support the driver's out of hours at 14 on the clock... then this whole HOS has no meaning. And the shipper or reciever should be deprived of his freight or business until such time it does support the idea that they will just have to wait until the out of hours driver gets his hours back and can go to work.
     
  4. 2CAN

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    If the truck does not belong to the shipper or receiver and the driver is not their employee they have no obligation.

    I agree that loading and unloading times can be burdensome, bit is more government really the answer?

    They may start letting you park on site. What's to stop them from charging and exorbitant fee?

    Late for delivery? Here's your fine.

    Cont work you in today but no worries , you can park out back till we get around to you.

    Unitended consequences.
     
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  5. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    you can work pass your 14 hour clock and 70 hour clock. oh and you can work pass your 8 hour clock too
     
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  6. truckdriver31

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    you can work 14 more hours for a total of 28 straight hours and not have a fine
     
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  7. STexan

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    keyword "work" but I think "drive" is the issue being discussed. But that aside, dark can often lead to optical confusion, and HOS has nothing to do with it. It happens. Consider drizzle, wet pavement reflecting light, complete night darkness, confusing artificial lights being reflected, and how things appear, unfamiliar area, even for alert drivers, night driving can be difficult in unfamiliar and unlit areas.
     
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  8. truckdriver31

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    just see who really knows the hos rule. good job driver
     
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  9. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    yuup it happens to all of us.
     
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  10. x1Heavy

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    You can work 3000 years in the trailer unloading, just cannot drive until you have had 10 hours in the bunk.

    A driver told me that if Waco Texas has a walmart DC expecting a load tonight, he will run out of hours waiting on the dock call at 14 hours. Thus he will simply park in Carls Corner I think is about 2 hours or less before Waco and go to Walmart in the morning rather than sit all night waiting on a dock call and not have the truck ELD complain about violation.

    In the old days they most certainly had you parked out back however long to load or unload etc. I remember a Americold in Salinas where we waited 52+ hours straight to get loaded, the produce was not even blast cooled enough to load until that time. We spent that time sitting physically blocking two docks with our rig waiting for the call. Watched movies, slept, ate read books watched more movies etc some TV until our brains rotted until we were sick of sitting. And this was a husband wife team truck that's sitting on it's now enormous fat butt. Very expensive.

    And you wonder why I have very carefully later that year OTR chose to work for just McKesson where it's STRICTLY drop hook for loading in 10 minutes and absolutely unloaded in less than a hour, reloaded with cardboard right back to memphis. Not even allowed to leave the tractor and go inside the warehouse. They have cages inside every door to trap anyone until they give permission. So for miles and work it's awesome. No more sitting outside of Associated Grocers all night in the snow waiting for a dock with a bunch of others... in East St Louis downtown.
     
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  11. STexan

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    It blows my mind sometimes when driving at night with snow or drizzle in play, various other lights being reflecting off wet pavement or snow, how the entire scene can become a bizarre melding of surface and horizon and "nothingness". Almost as bad as flying with no visible earth horizon reference points and no artificial horizon to refer to.
     
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