The “Lets get real about ELD,s” thread

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Stump, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. O.Henry

    O.Henry Road Train Member

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    $400/week is good money to them.Im a company driver,and if I can’t get used to Tick-Tock,I can only imagine what it’s doing to O/O
     
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  3. diesel drinker

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    It's not but that's what many of them make.I once met a girl who drove for CRE and she told me she quit driving because she was making $400 a week.
    Them megas have a lot of cheap manpower and they just managed to tilt "playing field" in their favor.
     
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  4. spyder7723

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    It doesnt matter if the load goes 600 miles or 10 miles. If it's going to be the only load you can do in a day it needs to pay a full days rate or don't haul it and find a better paying load.
     
  5. ShooterK2

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    I hear what you're sayin and that fits if you're an OTR fella. But in the patch, you don't just "find a better paying load." Out here, we have a JOB to do. Not just one load. The loads pay well and we get paid for sitting, so money is not the issue. Getting the job done safely and efficiently is the issue.

    The scenario I gave happens a lot these days. There is nothing unsafe about it, I don't care what the government says. According to the current rules, our only option is to bring in EVEN MORE TRUCKS and be even LESS EFFICIENT with each truck. Some trucks won't even work but two hours a day.

    It's an HOS problem to be sure. No doubt about that. But us oilfield boys have complained about it ever since they made the 14 hour rule and took away the ability to split break like we used to. They've shown us for years that they have no intentions of doing anything about it.

    Recently I hear they are looking into splitting the break again like we did before they "fixed" that rule. That will help us tremendously. Just a shame it came to this whole elog mess to get them to see what we've been saying all this time.

    We honestly are not running around being unsafe and having wrecks and killing people. We just want to get our job done safely and efficiently.
     
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  6. spyder7723

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    Yes the hos sucks. No doubt. But the industry, including the oil patch guys, chose to ignore that and focus on fighting elogs for 15 freaking years.

    All the complaining now, after the fact does nothing but illuminate just how much the industry had ignored hos regs. That's the exact reason all the highway safety advocates got legislatures to agree to push elogs on all of us.
     
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  7. diesel drinker

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    "Highway safety advocates"? Are you being serious?It always amazes me how naive some people are.
     
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  8. spyder7723

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    Those groups have a thousand times more voting power than the ata that everyone wants to blame for all that's wrong in trucking. And politicians care about voting power more than anything else.
     
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  9. diesel drinker

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    I am asking where these groups get money from? Do they receive or received any money from mega carriers and or elog manufacturers?
    Recently in my country of origin journalists found out that organization lobbying for ban of farming animals for furs in my c.o.o (you know animal cruelty and all that) was receiving money from groups of interest associated with animals for furs growers in Western Europe. Nowadays it rarely is what it look like it is. You got to follow the money to find the truth.
     
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  10. spyder7723

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    I figure from their membership fees and advertisers in their publications. Each of those groups alone couldn't have done it, but when it comes to trucking they all collaborate. Just the aarp alone has a voting base that dwarfs what we as drivers have. Then when they joined forces with aaa, mothers against tired truckers, etc etc, trucking didn't have a chance in Washington. Yes the ata came out in support of elogs, but the motive wasnt what everyone wants to say it was. It was simply to have a seat at the table so they could at least attempt to influence hos regulations into something they could learn to live with.

    If toy dog back to the mid 90s when hos reform was being discussed you will see that the ata was being shut out of the discussion. It was being driven by groups that absolute hate trucks and would be perfectly happy to keep us off of public roads. And ya, i know that sounds completely impractical and illogical but all ya gotta do is look at the far left environmentalist to see that practical and logic doesn't matter to a group that influences laws and regulations.
     
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  11. diesel drinker

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    Haha tonight I backed up into a spot with 14 SECONDS left ony 14.
     
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