Owning an EPA truck myself, I would never buy another. If a "NEW" truck was in my future, it would be a glider with a Series 60 or N-14. The issues with these new EPA motors is unfathomable. The down time, the lack of knowledge of the mechanics, the costs of maintaining one, etc. And then the rest of the truck has been cheapened to the point of junk to make up for the costs of the EPA mandates. No thanks.
But, if I was in the market for a truck, I would be looking for an old owner operator ride, one owner. Pay that little extra premium and run it until it needs an in frame. Repair as you roll down the road making money. That is where I am at now on my truck. Fresh in frame, EPA mandate is gone, and now it is just Gas Tires and Oil. I am finally making money, and it has only taken four years of repairs and down time.
Find a good old truck and go make some money.
glider or new
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by browndogg1, Dec 15, 2017.
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There'sa landstar o/o with a 2018 pete 379 ,youtube channel-Life is Good. Has nothing but good things to say about the new Cummins X15 Performance Series. I'm watching him closely. One thing Cummins did that I believe helped reliability was to go with one cam instead of the DOHC setup. All the previous emissions Cummins ,other makes and current detroits will not touch!Justrucking2 Thanks this.
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The double cam Cummins are fine motors. The CM-870 is virtually bullet proof with a tiny amount of tinkering and still returns good fuel economy, easily a million + mile motor. The double cam CM-871 is darn close, but one needs to remove the mandate to get it there, with good care, another million mile motor. The single cam CM-2250 suffers from more than a few issues, as does the CM-2350. Fuel pumps and liner issues, not something to play with. I would not own one of these motors. That second cam ran the fuel injectors, the new motors use a high pressure fuel pump, which eliminated that second cam. The old system was much better in my mind and did not take out the block if anything in the fuel system failed.
Hopefully, the new X motor will have addressed the liner and fuel pump issues. I hear that Cummins has isolated the fuel pump from the rest of the motor when it blows apart, so that shrapnel does not enter the block. Hopefully that is the case, as these fuel pumps are still taking out motors as I type on the 2250 and 2350. What interests myself, is the new one piece emission set up. I am curious to see how that holds up. And also wondering when the SCR system fails, which they all eventually do, is it repairable or will you have to purchase an entire system and what is the cost on that? $10,000 or even more? And, I expect that there are guys already working on eliminating the mandate on these motors, so that when it does come time, a proper delete will be available. I know of at least one person working on that now.Last edited: Dec 27, 2017
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Reason I'm following along to see any problems- Life is Good. may have..Not the guinea pig here!
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That is one motor I would not want to be a tester on, because that is how Cummins and all of these engine manufacturers seem to roll, the new owner is the test dummy.
Dominion Transportation Thanks this. -
I have got to agree it sure seems that way so many new ones in the shop. I went to Freightliner today for an overhead that place was packed all had electrical or regen problems, out of at least 30 mine was the only one having scheduled maintenance go figure these dealers are making a killing on warranty work just saying.
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is this seriously a question? Who cares about resale value. You buying to forever own and problem free of any emissions bs problems. just makin money with no down time. glider all the way
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It is ugly... And yes they are, and in the process they normally never fix the real issues, these suckers will be back.

You know it is bad when you roll into a Cummins shop and they direct you to a place to get a delete... Just saying. Been there, and done that. I did mine in my driveway. All is good, I now have a reliable motor, after the in frame, third going on fourth year with the MM2. The rest of the truck, I'm still working on that.
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you have a delte? that's awesome
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I can keep an update on the reliability of the X15. Work in a fleet of 100 trucks that are running some now and trading for 50 new in March. They put about 250k year on these trucks. East to west coast.
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